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« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2008, 11:51:13 AM »

Forum arguments are not perhaps a security hazard, but maybe that helps us understand the elusive problems in defining "computing environment."  So how do we resolve the debate, or is it a non debate?

Luketan is of course absolutley right that which software used is only one issues, other issues do exist.  Not the least of these is user intelligence, knowledge and discipline.  (Clicking "allow" carelessly defeats much of the good secruity software available, including CPF.)

Others here are concentrating on how CPF works, natural enough since that is the nature of the forum.

Luketan adds something, and I think is making a good point.  But any forum post (like my own) often involves stating the obvious.  So I think, to some degree,  he is hoist on his own petard when he criticizes other posters for not responding to arguments.   Like it or not, internet forums invite argumetns that are skew to one another and are often unproductive.

Thansk to Comodo for a good forum and thanks to Luketan for contributing.  Having said all that, I will join in Melih's plea to cut each other some slack. 

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« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2008, 12:22:43 PM »

Any more off topic posts? I should lock this thread and notify the thread starter, if this continues (of course a moderator would unlock it again whenever he/she returns to continue the discussion). This discussion isn't in any way helpful for the thread starter, so we'd better stop it now. Luketan, thanks for your intention of helping the helpers, but we obviously don't need it at this point.

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« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2008, 03:27:38 PM »

I'm not trying to help the threader starter, who seems to have gone MIA before i even posted.


I'm trying to help the people who are trying to help people....


Personally, based on your approach, i don't know why you guys even borther asking questions. Just ask the guy to slap on your preferred security software (mostly comodo) and all is done right? Oh sure you will customize a bit but essentially that is going to be the answer right?


One's computering environment = security software right?


rlong11s is waiting for some assistance.
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« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2008, 03:42:42 PM »

I have to say that imho, both Ewen and Luketan detain a part of the thruth, and this is interesting indeed: while Ewen's question (and answer...yes, the question is very answer oriented) is obviously useful, it should come next to another question, again in my opinion, that is never ever being asked in forums, for privacy concerns, which is probably a part of what Luketan was thinking of: "You're being hacked, spied, whatever, soooooooooooooo: WHERE DO YOU SURF HuhHuhHuh??"
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« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2008, 04:02:14 PM »

I agree Leopard, that's also a valid question. There's nothing wrong in asking it (regarding privacy concerns), it's a decision of rlong11s to reveal for us.

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« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2008, 04:17:03 PM »

just adding: when file and printer sharing get reactivated, the LAN environment should also be taken into account, which means who has access to what in the LAN, not to mention that this can also happen in an internet  peer to peer environment where software often requires changes in the TCP/IP settings, and software is also able to change the settings without the user's consent: but CFP Def+ should prevent this, and most likely does.
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« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2008, 04:34:42 PM »

Even though I agree with Leopard19 but lets get some facts on the table:

People who are offering to help the others are users like anyone else. They are not the CIA or FBI or the Ultimate Security Experts that we expect them to ask the right questions 100% of the time in every word they write!

I really can't believe the fuss created with a user wanting to help another user by starting to ask a simple question! Is it the right question to start with, you bet! Is it the only question, of course not! We should be grateful that this user was kind enough to offer his time to start helping some other in need!

So honestly lets see it what it is, a user helping another one, if other people believe they can help better, then why don't they?

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« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2008, 05:04:14 PM »

would be cool if rlong11s was getting a bit more involved in the thread he started...rlong11s Wave
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« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2008, 05:05:41 PM »

You're at work, and you call one of your employees over to point out an error he made, and show him the correct way to do things...
An hour later, your boss comes over and corrects you about the same thing, right in front of your employee...
Now you feel like you are two feet tall.

What better way to rebuild your self-esteem than to go on the internet when you get home and correct someone else?

Ahh, yes.
The ability to be anonymous on the web has it benefits...
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« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2008, 07:15:36 PM »

just adding: when file and printer sharing get reactivated, the LAN environment should also be taken into account, which means who has access to what in the LAN, not to mention that this can also happen in an internet  peer to peer environment where software often requires changes in the TCP/IP settings, and software is also able to change the settings without the user's consent: but CFP Def+ should prevent this, and most likely does.

LOL. I would have gotten there guys. My first question was simplistic because the OP's style of writing lead me to believe that they did not have a high degree of technical expertise. My depth of my next question would have been based on their response.

Ewen :-)
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