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« Reply #45 on: August 13, 2008, 06:53:06 PM »

That was called dark humour, LA Roll Eyes

I'll continue avoiding auto updates from M$ like WGA Roll Eyes
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« Reply #46 on: September 09, 2008, 05:40:41 PM »

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS08-052.mspx --> this is confusing.  Why would XP SP2 and SP3 be listed in both the affect and non-affect sections?  So is this update even needed?  Supposing it's important, should I install both KB938464 because I have XP SP2 and IE 6 (and then for PowerPoint 2003) ?  Here's what I mean:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=e0bd6fbe-f46e-4961-9a79-49ec77d39439&displaylang=en

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=a860d2d9-653d-4ddb-bbff-323d3ccdb866&displaylang=en

Hmm...my IE 6's specific version is SP2, so if that article refers to IE 6 SP1, I guess I don't need the second one.
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« Reply #47 on: September 10, 2008, 05:13:34 AM »

I can't get the first link you posted to work, but here's what confuses me with 954593:

Affected Software:

Windows XP Service Pack 2 and Windows XP Service Pack 3 (just OS, no component)

Non-Affected Software:

Windows XP Service Pack 2 and Windows XP Service Pack 3 (several components listed, e.g. IE6 & IE7)

Other than the "non-affected" IE6 I have no M$ software except XP SP3. So "affected software" tells me I need this update, independent of components, but "non-affected software" says that the only M$ application I actually have - IE6 - is non-affected? IE is non-affected but XP is affected, thus I need the update?



What about 954156, would I need such an update when I don't have WMP? I still have WM codecs.

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« Reply #48 on: September 10, 2008, 07:53:03 AM »

I should've updated my last post yesterday when I figured it all out:

954156 - I myself thought I needed, but when I tried to install, it detected I had no such Windows Media Encoder 9 Series.  I'm not sure if it's due to deleting files according to BF... Embarrassed, but this meant I couldn't install it.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS08-052.mspx --> M$ wasn't clear on the second chart when they should've been. 

The part on
"Non-Affected Software:
Windows XP Service Pack 2 and Windows XP Service Pack 3 (several components listed, e.g. IE6 & IE7)"
means you don't need that specific update because IE 6 's service pack is based on XP's service pack.  So technically you have IE 6 SP3 (you can check the About Internet Explore menu), which means you don't need the "IE version" of the GDI+ patch.

But the part on
"Affected Software:
Windows XP Service Pack 2 and Windows XP Service Pack 3 (just OS, no component)"
applies to us because it's on the OS itself, not any specific program.  So you should install the "OS version" of the GDI+ patch: KB938464.



Oddly enough, the GDI+ patch on PowerPoint 2003 Viewer didn't seem to add anything in terms of files or registry entries.  I verified this with Zsoft Uninstaller. Undecided
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« Reply #49 on: September 10, 2008, 11:51:52 AM »

KB954593 and KB 938464 seem to be one and the same Huh
But i still can`t find what has actually been modified during the update.
Nowt in the system32 folder has,can`t see any that have [anyone know where to look?]


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« Reply #50 on: September 10, 2008, 11:54:10 AM »

Thanks Soya, what you say makes sense. I guess I should try to install the GDI patch but I'm quite sure it won't work on my messed up system. Sad

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« Reply #51 on: September 10, 2008, 01:21:17 PM »

Matty, I would've posted what has changed/added, but I deleted by Zsoft Uninstaller log.  I usually do so when I know I won't be uninstalling something from the PC.  Can you post the link to the KB954593 download page - whatever one you're thinking about installing?
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« Reply #52 on: September 10, 2008, 04:33:54 PM »

Sorry i`m a knod,i could ov sworn this morning i saw one at 1.5mb(KB954593) and one at 1.3mb(KB938464) but it seems there both KB938464!!
I still can`t get me head round the microsoft briefing,i`ve read the KB954593 document http://support.microsoft.com/kb/954593 about 4 times but can`t find any Gdiplus.dll or whatever.
Who knows  Undecided

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« Reply #53 on: September 10, 2008, 05:19:19 PM »

Have you been deleting more files behind our backs? Thinking

I have 4 of them.
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« Reply #54 on: September 11, 2008, 05:09:18 AM »

Thanks Soya found em now so feel a bit happier  Thumb Up (i should really use the search feature more often)
Wonder if we can get rid of the old one  Evil .......Nah i`ll leave it be!!
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« Reply #55 on: September 11, 2008, 06:16:05 AM »

You guys pick your updates. I've gone back to letting M$ give suggestions, then I chose myself (on Microsoft Update in IE6) what to install. This is a compromise between your method and leaving it completely to Automatic Updates.

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« Reply #56 on: September 11, 2008, 06:39:42 AM »

That was my old way: vulnerable to M$ spies and bloat Grin
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« Reply #57 on: September 11, 2008, 07:49:47 AM »

I've decided to not download any updates at all! Bounce
Will wait and see if there will be a Service Pack when they stop supporting Windows XP... Thinking
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« Reply #58 on: September 11, 2008, 07:54:38 AM »

Good decision Rag  Thumb Up

I think there will be no more Service Packs for XP. SP3 is a final one. MS will only push security updates  Smiley
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« Reply #59 on: September 11, 2008, 09:03:45 AM »

M$ is too lazy lacks incentive to release any more SP's for XP.  They even admitted that SP3 doesn't provide major upgrades.
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