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« Reply #90 on: May 12, 2008, 06:27:54 PM »

Install of SP3 onto my AMD A8N32-SLI desktop was faultless (AFAIK).
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« Reply #91 on: May 12, 2008, 09:13:30 PM »

Now, let's be earnest.!?

Immediately removed that piece of crap (SP 3).
Installed many things I didn't wanna have on my sys, without any interaction, without asking ME, the user.
New Billy attack, or what?
After removal, it left lots of **** and over 380 false registry entries.

So I did a fresh re-installment of Win XP and all of my programs. Took me about 20 minutes.

Now, I'm happy again Smiley

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« Reply #92 on: May 13, 2008, 03:19:48 AM »

Now, let's be earnest.!?

Immediately removed that piece of crap (SP 3).
Installed many things I didn't wanna have on my sys, without any interaction, without asking ME, the user.
New Billy attack, or what?
After removal, it left lots of **** and over 380 false registry entries.

So I did a fresh re-installment of Win XP and all of my programs. Took me about 20 minutes.

Now, I'm happy again Smiley

Yes, it does add a lot of things, a pity you didn't see previous posts! But hey, you are the nLite master, go ahead and slipstream SP3. Smiley

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« Reply #93 on: May 13, 2008, 04:27:39 AM »

Just slipstreamed XP Pro SP" with SP£ via nLite (wasn't too savage), booted CD and installed OK.
Few things to turn off and investigate, but so far...

Did ask nLite not to install WMP but it did. Just have to kill WMP in some way.
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« Reply #94 on: May 14, 2008, 09:34:11 PM »

I installed on 3 production machines at mywork place today for required testing procedures.  I used two different methods: one from the M$ Updates site that required WGA to go on and the other from Windows XP Service Pack 3 Network Installation Package for IT Professionals and Developers

Results:  1. Thumb Down  2. Thumb Down  3. Thumb Down

Two of them were dead obvious that they didn't accept since they entered an infinite loop of rebooting, while the other one wasn't as obvious until there was problem with certain network access like the printer and network database.  Uninstalled for the one, and re-imaged for the other two and all was back to normal.
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« Reply #95 on: May 14, 2008, 09:43:53 PM »

Were they HP and/or AMD systems?
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« Reply #96 on: May 14, 2008, 09:48:56 PM »

Lenovo | AMD ...

Damn.  I should've researched more.  Wonder why the other PC didn't have the reboot problem.  But at least the worst case was I just ended up wasting time Grin

But now that I know I have intelppm.sys on my Intel PC, it's definitely not going to work with my PC.  Unless there are workarounds, but that shouldn't be expected for users.  Not that I'm interested in SP3 with all the Outlook Express and Movie Maker reincarnations.
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« Reply #97 on: May 14, 2008, 10:01:15 PM »

According to Jesper (link above), it's something to do with HP's OEM image (which shouldn't really impact you.. should it?) & AMD systems. If your systems are HP AMDs.. then, potentially, you're in boot-loop-hell (HPs image loads the Intel Power Management driver rather than the correct AMD one). There have been reports of a similar problems (in the sense that they BSOD into boot-loops) with ASUS AMD motherboards (might be related to the sheer amount of different CPUs supported by those boards) & a faulting ATI driver (Intel & AMD).. but, nothing confirmed AFAIK.

edit: That Intel PPM issue just impacts HPs image. My SP3 install on an AMD using MS's image was fine (loaded the correct AMD PPM driver).
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« Reply #98 on: May 14, 2008, 10:14:23 PM »

So I guess they can either add Lenovo AMDs to the trashed list or it's something else like you suspect.  Either way, it don't work.  I had to test it out and since they weren't my computers, it's all good Grin.
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« Reply #99 on: May 15, 2008, 03:17:08 AM »

My complete loss of any start up even in safe mode was with an Intel Celeron and not AMD.   I do not know of anything I had that could have caused conflict, except possibly that I did not disable AntiVir Premium.
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« Reply #100 on: May 15, 2008, 05:57:14 AM »

Read on the web that it could be caused by a driver conflict like the intelppm.sys I posted above
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« Reply #101 on: May 15, 2008, 06:37:08 AM »

So I guess they can either add Lenovo AMDs to the trashed list or it's something else like you suspect..
This is a Service Pack, that's like installing every MS patch since SP2.. hmmm.. OK, it is exactly like installing every MS patch since SP2 + a load of other stuff, all at once.. I'm sure there is plenty of room for error.
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« Reply #102 on: May 15, 2008, 08:53:04 AM »

HP tells AMD desktop users to sit tight on SP3
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« Reply #103 on: May 16, 2008, 01:13:37 PM »

Having just finished setting up the new installation, I installed MaxBlast so that I could clone to the Maxtor HDD.

Having had trouble with DiskWizard I tried turning off Avast's Self-defence Module and Rootkit scan on start-up; also Defense+ blocking operations when the app. is off.

The whole tranfer was complete in 5 minutes and is working :-)
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« Reply #104 on: May 16, 2008, 07:28:55 PM »

Jesper, mentioned previously in this thread, has now written a small tool that will detect the IntelPPM issue on AMD machines & zap it before you install SP3.

edit: Obviously running this tool on an Intel machine wouldn't be a good idea, it will break it.
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