Tormod:
Yes, may be. In this case we have 2 kinds of trust (intentions and reliability: two completely different things), approachable in 2 way (consciously or impulsively), with 2 different kind of intensity (conditional or unconditional).
Cool.
About family, I agree with you.
The thing is very simple, some people has got a wonderful family, some a normal one, some a bad one, some a terrible one. "Family" itself does not include necessarily any warranty of trustiness.
Often we can trust quite much their conscious intentions, but for the very particular nature of the relationship in family there are unconscious intentions which sometimes push them to do a bad thing thinking it is the good one. So, we can quite always trust the intentions, IMHO only conditionally, but not always the reliability.
Also often parents forget the difference between education and instruction:
1) e-dùcere, let something come out = to understand your son's personality, nature, talents and potential, and, unconditionally, whatever it is, to help him/her to develop it, even if you do not agree. Some parents are totally unable to do this. Some others do impressive and quite exagerated things to do it.
2) in-strùere, build something outside in, give form (same root of “structure”) = projecting to your son YOUR personality, limits, dreams, fears, and conditionally trying to do of your son what YOU think he/she should be, what you was not able to be, or what you are.
Other limits of the relationship in family is: attachment. I don't know where you all live (I already misunderstood an Australian for an Americaner
), but i.e. in Italy mothers are really possessive, they do not let you go. And this does not help the son to correctly grow up. In fact I am an idiot, as you all can easily see.
And, as said before, to Love is also to wish the good for someone even if this is not good for you and will hurts you. Mothers are quite completely unable of this. Well, Italian ones, at least...
Finally, as you say, there is the inner personal limit of each one. They are persons, after all, or "humans", as Kyle says.
I feel more and more that the key to the complete and perfect trustiness is related to Love and and particularly with “to not judge”, which is vital for the unconditionality in any kind and grade of relationship.
I guess that in one’s life, possibly the most common trusty relationship is the unexplicable unconditional friendship.
For what I saw of couple relationship, I think that more often we can trust in friends than in lovers.
Untill and unless we meet our real and only Twin Soul.
Other interesting question is if you (all) felt/feel trust for someone, someone phisically "existing" or not (i.e. some people trust Angels. Some of them have or think to have proves -substantiated trust-, some others just "feel like they can trust", which anyway it is not senseless, as Angels are said to Love unconditionally and to help without judging. I myself have never felt any angel, nor thought too much about them, but I "feel like I can trust").
As we have not to go too personal (wasn't it an off topic board?
), more centerd questions could be:
when you choose a security software, how can you know you can trust either its intentions or its reliability 100% sure?
I.e., do you know how this topic was born? The imput was the poll by Melih, about if we would pay for a security etc...
In that moment I thought "I would not pay for a Comodo product. Because till they do it for free, they do it for passion. And I trust them. If they would become powerful and reach and grow up a lot, I fear that I would not be able to trust anymore 100%. Nothing personal, of course".
Finally I answered yes. As I like the product. Ane there was no space for a comment, or I had no wish to leave one, and it was crude to say no without being able to explain why.
Key, IMHO, is in the difference between "faith", "believes", "knowledge".
And, at least in this case, common sense too. Also resignation...
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