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« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2008, 10:15:12 AM »

That's why I don't understand why separate them into 2 different locations when in the classic version they can be grouped under one, all in C:\Program Files\Opera.

What about opssl6.dat and the VPS folder?  My guess is the first is the security sites or certificates file and the second is the voice-controlling data.
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« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2008, 10:24:31 AM »

That's why I don't understand why separate them into 2 different locations when in the classic version they can be grouped under one, all in C:\Program Files\Opera.

What about opssl6.dat and the VPS folder?  My guess is the first is the security sites or certificates file and the second is the voice-controlling data.

VPS holds autocompletion data used when typing new url.
opssl6.dat holds cert infos. Here I got some comodo forums cert in that file.

As for the two directories I guess it was a mentioned in some guideline.
This way volatile data is actually separated from real profile info.

I guess that at least sparing some space would be a good thing.
IMHO backup of Opera cache files is not that important.

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« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2008, 10:39:39 AM »

It looks like the interface is slightly more customizable than before. I wa able to rearrange it like in the previous version and I also managed to remove the tab panels when I have only one page opened. I had to move the new tab button and the closed pages button in order to not cause deadlocks. I aso ha to edit the ini files to add a close menu item in the popup window.

This setup saves a lot of space.
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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2008, 10:39:47 AM »

Exactly.  I'll stop complaining once the blocked content bug is fixed and the classic installer arrives Love
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« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2008, 10:52:10 AM »

I found this on another forum:
http://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/950/en/Opera_950_classic_Setup.exe

They tend to not publicly release these setup files until later for some reason Roll Eyes
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« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2008, 11:06:29 AM »

I found this on another forum:
http://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/950/en/Opera_950_classic_Setup.exe

They tend to not publicly release these setup files until later for some reason Roll Eyes

So this only leaves the content blocker but I don't know if they'll change that IIRC there were complaints about case insensitive matching too.
I guess the best way would be to implement some case modifier token.
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« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2008, 04:43:40 PM »

Content blocking can be done on a per-site basis (I don't use it, so don't know if it works in 9.5).

BTW, it's possible to have more than 9 Speed Dial pages; I now have 18!

http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=233872
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« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2008, 06:17:59 PM »

BTW, it's possible to have more than 9 Speed Dial pages; I now have 18!

http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=233872

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« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2008, 08:19:37 PM »

Content blocking can be done on a per-site basis (I don't use it, so don't know if it works in 9.5).

I thought it has always had that option.  But that's not what I want.  I like the content blocker for its wild cards, kind of like a hosts file, but obviously much better.  So if I had to check every site again to add more (I don't like that word Sad) entries to the list, it'd be a shame.  If there really are people who complained about case insensitivity, it would've been easily dealt with by creating an option to toggle between the two.

I did notice its benefits too.  Take this animated gif for example:
.  It's now spinning so fastly and smoothly even when compared to IE (which was always faster for me).
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« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2008, 12:37:52 AM »

Hmm... so it's finally out of its cage, eh?
Will give it a spin, and post a review (from an FF user's eyes).

BTW, it's possible to have more than 9 Speed Dial pages; I now have 18!
Old news in FF, by the way...
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« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2008, 02:51:52 AM »

And from who do you think FF stole it  Nerd

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« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2008, 03:05:11 AM »

I know where its coming from...

It works the same way like technology in; Japan vs U.S.
Japan stole/learn the technology/formula, then they make U.S looks like crap!

*. Let's not start the 'war' here.
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« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2008, 03:43:26 AM »

I know where its coming from...

It works the same way like technology in; Japan vs U.S.
Japan stole/learn the technology/formula, then they make U.S looks like crap!

*. Let's not start the 'war' here.

Yep no need to cause a ruckus on a browser.  Shocked

FF is still my system browser but I use Opera for everyday surfing.

Surely the sheer amount of FF extensions is overhelming and there are particularly good ones too.
Opera instead is more widget oriented and I guess this prevents at least some type of extenions that could be implemented in FF.

Still Opera has many baseline functions right out the box whereas FF needs extensions.
FF2 performances were affected by the number of extension loaded.
I installed FF3 RC and I hope that when compatible extensions will be released the new platform will handle them better than the previous one.
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« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2008, 04:14:18 AM »

Can you make v 9.5 as script/noscript convenient as in Firefox with NoScript? If I could only get script protection to work as nice as in Firefox, I would probably switch to Opera. Well, I need a substitute for Adblock too, but I think I know how to fix a decent replacement.

I've been yearning for Opera ever since I replaced IE with Firefox, because Firefox is so slow. Even v 3 RC2 which I'm using now is a bit too slow, though it's better than v 2.

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« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2008, 04:46:31 AM »

OK, here is my review to Opera 9.5 (from an FF user view).

- Installation
Installation went fine.
No excessive question during the installation.
Smooth... too smooth, I say... as Opera silently import all of my FF bookmarks (not from IE!!)
Perhaps because Opera think FF is my default browser?
I realize this behavior, when I try to type in the address bar, and all of my bookmarks starting to roll (like in FF3).
Scary behavior... Nothing's wrong, just scary.
Hmm... a browser that has it's own mind, and decide what to do, without a single warning...


- Speed
Opera is known for it's speed in rendering a website.
In this release, I can confirm to all of you, that it's still hold true to it's own name and reputation.
But somehow... there is some strange gap before Opera's showing a website fully.
I found out that this behavior called "Redraw" behavior in Opera (correct me if I'm wrong).
...I don't know why (in the first place) this options enabled by default (Redraw after 1 second), but it sure is annoying. ...though, changing this option to "Redraw instantly" does not kill the gap when I try to load Gamespot.com...


- Design & Appearance
Yes, Opera now sports a sleek design.
It comes in a finely tune black gloss like Vista's style.
Not too shiny, but cool.
Everything's seems to be in place, except for the "Tab Bar" that somehow get's placed on the top of everything else, which is rather annoying when you don't have anything 'tabbed' and yet, there it is...
...even though, if we think about the 'easy to use' point, this persistent "Tab Bar" will indeed draw attention to a new Opera user... but I seriously doubt that! ...since Opera = experience user.
...or perhaps, it shows how much the developer's want to attract new comers?
Anyway, it's still a matter of taste... I just don't like it that way.
It's too big to be persistent, in my opinion.


- Usage
Opera is pretty simple and quite easy to use.
Even if you're a new comer. You can just jump in, and start browsing.
But when it comes to the preferences arrangement... (Huh)
...the triple question marks simply describe my reaction when I venture to the preferences department.
There's a lot of weird analogy going on inside Opera Dev.'s mind, I say.
Like; instead of "Delete all cookies when the browser exit" it's goes like this: "Delete new cookies when exiting Opera".
...and then I goes like; "huh!? ...what? ...so it can delete cookies, but only if it's new?"
...and after 3 times restarting Opera, I finally figure it out....
What a weirdo team would make (yes, MAKE or INSIST! not asking) they're users to venture that far away just to figure out how to completely block the cookies?
...perhaps it's just me... but the last time I check with my friend (an IE7 user. Yes, I make him installed Opera), he too had a problem about these weird preferences words and meanings.


- Function
By default, Opera doesn't have internal dictionary/spell check function (correct me if I'm wrong).
So international users depends on a good spell checker will have to find it the hard way, how to enable this function in Opera by themselves.
While it has a pop-up blocker, and session saver.
It still lacking the ability to save and display "Live Bookmarks" properly, but display any 'feeds' fine in a good old school window.


- Result in my opinion
If you seek a web browser with killer performance, this is it.
But if you're a new comer, or switching from FF, you need to spare some time with this slick browser.

...if you're an FF user, this one is quite powerful, but lack a lot of extra functionality due to the awkward widget Opera community has...
You can do your everyday task with this browser, but will lose any extra point you love from FF; like synchronize Bookmarks over the internet, disabling website scripts, leeching/by passing Megaupload download limit, etc...
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