How to speed up your system

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[LeoniAquila]

5: I think it will do more good than bad (given that you use a careful cleaner like CCleaner, rather than the killer of cleaners: RegSeeker) if you've installed and uninstalled many applications, which I know you have (). All people who come to forums with problems of applications that aren't really uninstalled; like Norton stuff, well - registry cleaning can solve much of those problems.

When Windows is newly installed, and all programs are newly installed (and none is actually uninstalled), there shouldn't be any need of cleaning the registry.

LA

[Soyabeaner]

Not necessarily a bluff - maybe only applicable to PC's with registries that have a large amount of real errors, especially with programs like security-based ones or malware-infected systems.  Even if you have such PC setup, how often are you supposed to clean your registry?  Maybe once in a long while.  If you do it regularly then you're just asking for trouble as the cleaner(s) that you're relying too much is only providing a false sense of cleanliness.

[Ragwing]

now the mysterious ones:
*MSMSGS
messenger sucks!  i never use it, i've tried to disable it, but it keeps coming back,why?  

Uninstall it and it should go away. Use Google and you might find something helpful

*ctfmont.exe
May i remove it?

Yes, but it'll be added to autostart all the time, so it's useless. Delete it from system32 and dllcache and it'll be gone for good.

- MSMSGS, I don't even remember if this is Windows Messenger or that Live Messenger? Anyhow if the program starts with Windows, don't you see a tray icon for it? If so, you should be able to maximize the program and change its options.

It's Windows Messenger, WLM uses msnmsgr.exe.

- ctfmont.exe, to be sure, I believe you mean ctfmon.exe? It's something related to M$ language bar and maybe Office, you'll find much info on Google. You can't disable it, it'll hunt you down. As I don't have any M$ Office (better get OpenOffice.org) or language bar, I booted in safe mode and REMOVED the annoying program the hard way, including all registry entries for it. I do this after every installation of Windows, not even nLite helps.

Any strange errors after uninstalling it?

[LeoniAquila]

Win Messenger: if you don't use it ganda, then just launch it and change its options not to start with Windows. You can't uninstall it, you can just uncheck the option of having shortcuts (in add/remove Windows components). On the other hand, it's possible to delete it "the hard way" like I did with ctfmon. Just boot in safe mode and delete it in the Program Files folder. But don't bother to delete the Windows Messenger folder, it'll be recreated... the only solution I'm aware of to get rid of it completely, is to use nLite.

Removing ctfmon: I've had no errors as far as I know, but if ganda is interested in removing it, he should look it up carefully if he uses M$ Office and/or the language bar!

LA

[LeoniAquila]

By the way, as for services, I've re-enabled Task Scheduler since it's needed for Windows prefetch. Anyone who starts to shut down services should look them up carefully, unless you are willing to lose all kinds of functionality and stability!!!

LA

[Burillo]

Jk is more efficient! Windows defrag is an ancient tool, Jk is a continuesly developed little program. The latest version 3.33 came out as late as December the 23:rd, last year.

do you really think the hard drive defragmenting method changed pretty much since past 15-20 years?..

[LeoniAquila]

do you really think the hard drive defragmenting method changed pretty much since past 15-20 years?..

I only know that MS always ship very simple tools with Windows, if not, there would be a little need for 3rd party solutions (thus giving MS an even more significant monopole). I've ran Windows defrag, and afterwards Jk, which has resulted in very much work for Jk since MS defrag didn't do its job any good.

Here's a discussion from a couple of months ago.

LA

[LeoniAquila]

How to speed up your system:

I've moved more than half of all fonts in Windows\Fonts to another folder (I call it Fonts_X), I think Windows loads about a millisecond faster.

This also makes it easier to chose the font I want, since I always chose among those I've kept in the Fonts folder. The rest is crap.

LA

[Japo]

do you really think the hard drive defragmenting method changed pretty much since past 15-20 years?..

Besides JkDefrag is waaay faster, and if you do something while it's operating it doesn't start all over again like the Windows one.

[ganda]

By the way, as for services, I've re-enabled Task Scheduler since it's needed for Windows prefetch. Anyone who starts to shut down services should look them up carefully, unless you are willing to lose all kinds of functionality and stability!!!

LA

where's my pen? need to write this somewhere.

Not necessarily a bluff - maybe only applicable to PC's with registries that have a large amount of real errors, especially with programs like security-based ones or malware-infected systems.  Even if you have such PC setup, how often are you supposed to clean your registry?  Maybe once in a long while.  If you do it regularly then you're just asking for trouble as the cleaner(s) that you're relying too much is only providing a false sense of cleanliness.

i use CCleaner daily 

 
thx guys, still not finished with this services stuff

[Soyabeaner]

where's my pen? need to write this somewhere.i use CCleaner daily 

Never mind the pen.  There's no time.  Remember this is a thread about speeding up.  Just bite your finger and use blood as ink to record this down:

CCleaner is indeed safe, but not 100% because that doesn't exist (just like a security program).  CCleaner is great for what it does in removing the crap files, but its registry aspect is limited.  Well, this is nothing new to you since we've discussed in another board before.  However, it's really not necessary to run daily even for just the file cleaning part if you don't install new software daily.  If you notice some stuff like Windows log files or index.dat files, they pretty much get re-created like the next time you reboot.  It's not like these files grow.  If that was the case, then I can see real benefits in frequently deleting them.  The only part that might speed up the PC as well as fix issues I find is the temp files & folders.

[ganda]

Never mind the pen.  There's no time.  Remember this is a thread about speeding up.  Just bite your finger and use blood as ink to record this down:

CCleaner is indeed safe, but not 100% because that doesn't exist (just like a security program).  CCleaner is great for what it does in removing the crap files, but its registry aspect is limited.  Well, this is nothing new to you since we've discussed in another board before.  However, it's really not necessary to run daily even for just the file cleaning part if you don't install new software daily.  If you notice some stuff like Windows log files or index.dat files, they pretty much get re-created like the next time you reboot.  It's not like these files grow.  If that was the case, then I can see real benefits in frequently deleting them.  The only part that might speed up the PC as well as fix issues I find is the temp files & folders.

understood! 

oh, i've just blocked MSMSGS.exe   
msmsgs.exe i trying to execute msmsgs.exe 
gotcha messenger!! 

[Soyabeaner]

You must be really to have kept the Messenger from Bill to remain on your computer.  Don't just prevent the messenger from running, shoot him!

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/302089
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_messenger_remove.htm

[ganda]

You must be really to have kept the Messenger from Bill to remain on your computer.  Don't just prevent the messenger from running, shoot him!

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/302089
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_messenger_remove.htm

cool  it seems outlook express has a default setting to activate msmsgs.exe. it's disabled now. thx soya.   

[Soyabeaner]

I just ran JKdefrag's commandline using the -a 3 switch ("C:\Program Files\JkDefrag\JkDefragCmd.exe" -a 3), which took like an hour or so to finish, but that's because that one is for sorting files & directories by name.  Good thing it paid off because I could've sworn my boot-time was less than 20 seconds right after .

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