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« on: June 10, 2008, 09:11:42 PM »

How far do you go to reduce the chances of picking something up, or being attacked while online?

I spoof my browser, OS version and referrer. Consequently, I get advised my OS isn't supported.
It has benefits, as well as the odd problem with one or two sites, but do you go to these sort of lengths?
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« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2008, 12:13:41 AM »

My original response was going to be something like, "I don't like hats, especial ones made of tin foil" lol.

However, I just applied Opera's Browser Identification option on one site that claims only Firefox works with it and guess what?  It worked Grin
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Do u know how I sleep? With 1 eye open. I have 9 kids. U know what they say? "Papa if u don't have candy we are going to kill u in your sleep!" When I finally get to sleep & they find the candy do u think they thank me? No. They say "Papa u stupid. Papa u ugly. Papa u look like a pornstar from 1977"
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« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2008, 01:05:56 PM »

Yep, It's handy. Try these tests
Code:
http://gemal.dk/browserspy/
It may reveal more than you expect!  Wink
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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2008, 01:08:06 PM »

LOL

I just tried the basic information test and it couldn't detect my real IE version or my CPU speed, and this isn't a result of my intention to hide, but inadvertently as result of so many deleted dll and system files in my quest to slim down XP Grin
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Do u know how I sleep? With 1 eye open. I have 9 kids. U know what they say? "Papa if u don't have candy we are going to kill u in your sleep!" When I finally get to sleep & they find the candy do u think they thank me? No. They say "Papa u stupid. Papa u ugly. Papa u look like a pornstar from 1977"
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« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2008, 01:09:56 PM »

LOL

I just tried the basic information test and it couldn't detect my real IE version or my CPU speed (that's because I've deleted so many dll and system files in my quest to slim down XP) Grin

Ha Ha ! Mine too !  Grin
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« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2008, 01:16:09 PM »

Variable    Setting
appName    Netscape
appCodeName    Mozilla
appVersion    5.0 (Windows; sv-SE)
appMinorVersion    Property not supported or blank!
IE real version    Not Internet Explorer or version is undetectable!
UserAgent    Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)
Security Policy    Property not supported or blank!
Browser Name    Mozilla t
Operating System    Windows NT 5.1
Platform    Win32 - Windows 32-bit platform
CPU    Property not supported or blank!
Online    true - The system is in global online mode
Connection Type    Property not supported or blank!
Vendor    Property not supported or blank!

Language    sv-SE
System language    Property not supported or blank!
User language    Property not supported or blank!

Variable    Setting
Windows Media Player installed    No or unable to detect...
Windows Media Player UniqueID    Player not installed...
Detect via MediaPlayer.MediaPlayer.1    Player not installed or unable to detect...
Detect via WMPlayer.OCX.7    Player not installed or unable to detect...
Detect WMP 6.4 via classID    Player not installed or unable to detect...
Detect WMP 7 and 9 via classID    Player not installed or unable to detect...

How to spoof OS version to DOS 1.0? Grin
And how to make it think I use 8-bit and not 32-bit? Grin
I'm not surprised it can't detect my CPU speed, not even Windows can do that.

Cheers,
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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2008, 01:17:19 PM »

How to spoof OS version to DOS 1.0? Grin
And how to make it think I use 8-bit and not 32-bit? Grin

Easy.  Just mask your IP as Ganda's range.
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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2008, 01:19:29 PM »

LOL [at] Soya!
How do you do it without masking the IP? Wink
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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2008, 01:38:52 PM »

appName 
appCodeName Mozilla 
appVersion 0.001 [GTF] (Mac67; X; SK) 
appMinorVersion 0.001 [GTF] (Mac67; X; SK) 
IE real version Not Internet Explorer or version is undetectable! 
UserAgent Enterprise/0.001 [GTF] (Mac67; X; SK) 
Security Policy Property not supported or blank! 
Browser Name Netscape Navigator s 
Operating System Mac 
Platform Win32 - Windows 32-bit platform 
CPU alpha 
Online true - The system is in global online mode 
Connection Type Property not supported or blank! 
Vendor Property not supported or blank! 
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« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2008, 01:40:52 PM »

Rolf ! Complete nonsense !  Grin
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« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2008, 02:33:18 PM »

I don't like to spoof Opera unless necessary for a site to work, and that leaves me a very bad opinion of that site. The way to go is designing web content according to W3C standards, but many designers code some junk, then work around the dozens of errors so that it display okay in IE and FF, and call it a day. Then they tell you that you can't enter their sites with your browser of choice unless it's IE and FF. (It's true however that most times it will work okay in other browser if you spoof the identification, at least if those developers didn't indulge too much in their wacko version of dynamic web design.)

If Opera users spoof their browser identification, webmaster's statistics will tell them that nobody uses Opera, and they will continue the practice of coding non standard junk and work it around for IE and FF.

http://help.opera.com/Windows/9.27/en/network.html#site
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« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2008, 02:37:22 PM »

Same here.  I even forgot about this trick until this thread was posted.  Grateful for this so I don't have to install another browser Hug
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« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2008, 02:38:39 PM »

Well said, Japo. I have a button on a toolbar that cycles between the 3 browsers and very rarely use anything other than Opera for this reason.
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« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2008, 02:47:51 PM »

Gosh I have just noticed that Opera even offers some neat free web developing tools:

http://help.opera.com/Windows/9.27/en/devtools.html#console
http://dev.opera.com/tools/
http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/introduction-to-opera-dragonfly/

I'm so mad at web designers who don't get their butts in gear--at least the professional ones, who're quite a lot. Sad
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« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2008, 02:52:12 PM »

The stats are a concern, but I do it to throw any exploits and downloads targetted at specific items in my headers and javascripts.

UserAgent    Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)
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