Data error (cyclic redundancy check) between 2 hard drives

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[VGI]

I'm upgrading to Vista 64.

I wanted to use my old 80gb OS hardrive as a small backup disk for 2 folders from my 250gb hardrive. One of the folders contain my college files, thesis and such, about 58gb big. This 58gb folder, along with the other one, is around 59gb. I try to copy and paste it from the 250gb into the 80gb. The smaller folder copies with no problem. The other, 58gb folder on the other hand encounters a "Data Error (Cyclic Redundancy Check).

I figured that it might be too big a folder to copy using the standard "copy and paste" procedure. Then my friend told me that he had copied and pasted bigger files.

All my hard drives are Maxtor. The 80gb is the oldest. It is IDE, 28-bit. My 250gb is 48-bit, SATA. My 80gb has a bad sector, hence its health registers at 97%.


Right now, I have delayed copying and pasting said folders from 250gb into 80gb. Instead I am ghosting 250gb into my 300gb. I will be repartitioning 250gb (probably into 50gb and 200gb, 50gb being the OS c: drive).

Then I will be installing Vista64 into 250gb (into the 50gb partition...or should it be 80gb?). Hopefully when I do, I can copy and paste said folders from 300gb into 80gb and 250gb.


I want your input on the matter, you guys. Will this work?

[Creasy]

I'm upgrading to Vista 64.

I wanted to use my old 80gb OS hardrive as a small backup disk for 2 folders from my 250gb hardrive. One of the folders contain my college files, thesis and such, about 58gb big. This 58gb folder, along with the other one, is around 59gb. I try to copy and paste it from the 250gb into the 80gb. The smaller folder copies with no problem. The other, 58gb folder on the other hand encounters a "Data Error (Cyclic Redundancy Check).

I figured that it might be too big a folder to copy using the standard "copy and paste" procedure. Then my friend told me that he had copied and pasted bigger files.

All my hard drives are Maxtor. The 80gb is the oldest. It is IDE, 28-bit. My 250gb is 48-bit, SATA. My 80gb has a bad sector, hence its health registers at 97%.


Right now, I have delayed copying and pasting said folders from 250gb into 80gb. Instead I am ghosting 250gb into my 300gb. I will be repartitioning 250gb (probably into 50gb and 200gb, 50gb being the OS c: drive).

Then I will be installing Vista64 into 250gb (into the 50gb partition...or should it be 80gb?). Hopefully when I do, I can copy and paste said folders from 300gb into 80gb and 250gb.


I want your input on the matter, you guys. Will this work?

Try with this.
http://www.codesector.com/teracopy.php

If it doesn't work for you, check following problems.

1.HDD cable problem.
-make it fit or change the cable.

2.Bad sector problem.
-check HDD for the bad sector.(it takes long)

3.BIOS problem.
-check you BIOS for HDD settings.

[VGI]

Will do. Thank you.

I've upgraded to Vista. I've copied and pasted the bigger folder that contains my college files. So far, it had encountered problems and I had to skip certain sub-folders.

At least it skips, and not completely terminate the whole process. But still, I want to "ghost" this one particular folder into 2 more hardrives.

I've ghosted 250GB into 300GB. Then I repartitioned 250 into C: 73.8GB and a logical  160GB drive where my games and programs will be. 300GB is the newest hardrive and will remain as a backup drive.

I am currently copying the bigger folder from 300GB into 80GB, my oldest drive. 80GB is still IDE. So far, I encountered errors that I mentioned earlier.

Will soon copy bigger folder from 300GB into 160GB logical drive. Let's see if I encounter problems.

If I do, I will install all motherboard drivers first then try again. If it still encounters problems, then I will use Teracopy.

[Creasy]

Will do. Thank you.

I've upgraded to Vista. I've copied and pasted the bigger folder that contains my college files. So far, it had encountered problems and I had to skip certain sub-folders.

At least it skips, and not completely terminate the whole process. But still, I want to "ghost" this one particular folder into 2 more hardrives.

I've ghosted 250GB into 300GB. Then I repartitioned 250 into C: 73.8GB and a logical  160GB drive where my games and programs will be. 300GB is the newest hardrive and will remain as a backup drive.

I am currently copying the bigger folder from 300GB into 80GB, my oldest drive. 80GB is still IDE. So far, I encountered errors that I mentioned earlier.

Will soon copy bigger folder from 300GB into 160GB logical drive. Let's see if I encounter problems.

If I do, I will install all motherboard drivers first then try again. If it still encounters problems, then I will use Teracopy.

The rules of installation Windows.

1.install Windows
2.install all of motherboard drivers.(you can download latest drivers from http://www.asus.com/)
3.install VGA driver.
4.Update Windows.

[Regression]

... and be carefull with teracopy it is buggy as hell and still beta :

Copy stops in the middle of operation bug is not (really) fixed like various  others  in names & dates, UTF etc. I won't use it esp. for big files transfers or huge list of files.

I won't use it at all it is unstable. Just my 2 cents ( see changelog, comments about versions and http://bugs.codesector.com/ ).

The main cause of crc's errors is a dying cable. Try another one if possible. Try disabling cache and chkdsk your system/swapfile disk. Delete defrag and move the swap file(s) if any.

Before any destructive chkdsk ( with /R like repair) on your datas drive you can try to recover/refresh the datas blocks with tools like Spinrite or some smartools. It looks odd but it works even on some  failing ... Maxtor diamond max (?) ... i recover a lot of them in the lastest years. Maxtors are weak and noisy ( see pages like http://datacent.com/datarecovery/hdd/maxtor/DiamondMax+80 ... just taken from a google search ).

[Creasy]

... and be carefull with teracopy it is buggy as hell and still beta :

Copy stops in the middle of operation bug is not (really) fixed like various  others  in names & dates, UTF etc. I won't use it esp. for big files transfers or huge list of files.

I won't use it at all it is unstable. Just my 2 cents ( see changelog, comments about versions and http://bugs.codesector.com/ ).

It works fine.
It only has the problems in certain systems.
Most of softwares have bugs which are not always happen to all people.
Do you think teracopy has tons of bugs because it's a BETA?
No, it's not

The main cause of crc's errors is a dying cable. Try another one if possible. Try disabling cache and chkdsk your system/swapfile disk. Delete defrag and move the swap file(s) if any.

The main cause of crc errors is not a dying cable but broken files.

Most of crc problems are happened by following environments.
Ranking 1 - Old HDD: bad sectors(logical, physical),
Ranking 2 - the head works not properly
Ranking 3 - HDD chipset is crazy.
Ranking 4 - Internet connection problems: too many noise.
Ranking 5 - Drivers are not installed properly.
Ranking 6 - BIOS setting problem: SATA+PATA(IDE) environment.
Ranking 7 - Conflictions against the other softwares.
Ranking 8 - A cable is not fit.
Ranking 9 - Motherboard problem.
Ranking 10 - A dying cable.

Before any destructive chkdsk ( with /R like repair) on your datas drive you can try to recover/refresh the datas blocks with tools like Spinrite or some smartools. It looks odd but it works even on some  failing ... Maxtor diamond max (?) ... i recover a lot of them in the lastest years. Maxtors are weak and noisy ( see pages like http://datacent.com/datarecovery/hdd/maxtor/DiamondMax+80 ... just taken from a google search ).

That's the certain cases in your environment.
Google is not always your good friend.
Also you can find nice FREE tools in this forum.
Please search it.

[Creasy]

Will do. Thank you.

I've upgraded to Vista. I've copied and pasted the bigger folder that contains my college files. So far, it had encountered problems and I had to skip certain sub-folders.

At least it skips, and not completely terminate the whole process. But still, I want to "ghost" this one particular folder into 2 more hardrives.

I've ghosted 250GB into 300GB. Then I repartitioned 250 into C: 73.8GB and a logical  160GB drive where my games and programs will be. 300GB is the newest hardrive and will remain as a backup drive.

I am currently copying the bigger folder from 300GB into 80GB, my oldest drive. 80GB is still IDE. So far, I encountered errors that I mentioned earlier.

Will soon copy bigger folder from 300GB into 160GB logical drive. Let's see if I encounter problems.

If I do, I will install all motherboard drivers first then try again. If it still encounters problems, then I will use Teracopy.

Did you upgrade XP to Vista(not clean install)?
Try clean install.

[Regression]

G... is not my friend definitively

I just suggest checking ''rank10'' for a possible bad cable before a rank 0 low format

It works fine.
It only has the problems in certain systems.
Most of softwares have bugs which are not always happen to all people.
Do you think teracopy has tons of bugs because it's a BETA?
No, it's not

I'm a beta-tester (too) but i had bad experience with this particular one only on certain systems ( there is another great tool with absolutely tons of bugs in this category ... in windows environment the copy function is still and always a recurrent problem when you deal with corruptions ). There is no stable version to use so far: Do or do not ...

Here for you some free tools i use ( I tested hundred of them... ):

TestDisk ( simple but essential safety tool: TD has features for both novices and experts. For those who know little or nothing about data recovery techniques, TestDisk can be used to collect detailed information about a non-booting drive which can then be sent to a tech for further analysis. Those more familiar with such procedures should find TestDisk a handy tool in performing onsite recovery )
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk

Novices can learn preventive backup with it. It can fix your system too.

Victoria : ( russian Windows low-level HDD tool with english menus : this free expert tool is powerfull and in fact dangerous : please read the basic english manual at least before use you can freeze/damage your system)
http://hdd-911.com/index.php?option=com_docman&Itemid=31 ( Victoria for windows )
http://rapidshare.com/files/43334011/Victoria_for_Windows_v4.zip ( english manual v4 taken from http://forum.hddguru.com/victoria-for-windows-detailed-english-manual-release-t6902.html)

This one is not in the popular list ... not for beginners.

Clean install

... i agree the name say it all ^^

Nice Avatar Creasy guy please stop watching me Peace ;-)

[Creasy]

G... is not my friend definitively

I just suggest checking ''rank10'' for a possible bad cable before a rank 0 low format
I'm a beta-tester (too) but i had bad experience with this particular one only on certain systems ( there is another great tool with absolutely tons of bugs in this category ... in windows environment the copy function is still and always a recurrent problem when you deal with corruptions ). There is no stable version to use so far: Do or do not ...

Here for you some free tools i use ( I tested hundred of them... ):

TestDisk ( simple but essential safety tool: TD has features for both novices and experts. For those who know little or nothing about data recovery techniques, TestDisk can be used to collect detailed information about a non-booting drive which can then be sent to a tech for further analysis. Those more familiar with such procedures should find TestDisk a handy tool in performing onsite recovery )
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk

Novices can learn preventive backup with it. It can fix your system too.

Victoria : ( russian Windows low-level HDD tool with english menus : this free expert tool is powerfull and in fact dangerous : please read the basic english manual at least before use you can freeze/damage your system)
http://hdd-911.com/index.php?option=com_docman&Itemid=31 ( Victoria for windows )
http://rapidshare.com/files/43334011/Victoria_for_Windows_v4.zip ( english manual v4 taken from http://forum.hddguru.com/victoria-for-windows-detailed-english-manual-release-t6902.html)

This one is not in the popular list ... not for beginners.
... i agree the name say it all ^^

Nice Avatar Creasy guy please stop watching me Peace ;-)

There are many tools but not perfect.
None of them can recover or repair corrupted files 100%.
I don't trust them all.
But it's helpful for some people in some situations.


'Ranking 10 - A dying cable'
I don't think this is main problem for VGI.
Because he got his new PC a few weeks ago.
(there is a possibility that his cable is the early defective. but I don't think in this case)
What if he used old cable?

Low level format.
I recommend the tool from the manufacturer.

Testing HDD.
I prefer HD Tune Pro.

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