SOPA/PIPA, ACTA and TPP

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[Radaghast]

Well, I wish they do more to prevent cyber attacks from China and Russia and other places.

They steal technologies and patents that people in this country worked hard.

Prevention of cyber warfare and and industrial espionage are not exactly the remit of these bills.

The Chinese are building a space station, aircraft carriers, and next generation fighter jets.

All from stolen technologies from the US

Source, Citation?

[clockwork]

Well, I wish they do more to prevent cyber attacks from China and Russia and other places.

They steal technologies and patents that people in this country worked hard.

The Chinese are building a space station, aircraft carriers, and next generation fighter jets.

All from stolen technologies from the US

Its not like your country had never taken from others....
basically it took everything from others, ask the indians, or the africans.
I just wanted to mention this.
And you will find some technology of this kind to.

Its not allways the others.

Is china for you, that theres a place where people are building things for you for cheap? And only u.s. people are able to invent planes, ships and space stations, so everyone else who builts things like that, MUST HAVE STOLEN IT???
Example?
In china has been the first official notified rocket start in history. And in romania there was the first 3 step rocket that was noted in the books. 
Do you think, if others built a plane carrier, china will built wood boats?


About the plans.
They can go ahead with censorship for profit, and they will lose profit. They will never see how people learn about new music on youtube, how they hear a song on the cassette player of a friend and get interested. They would not have as many customers as they have, if no one would have access.
Even more, they WOULDNT HAVE SOLD A SINGLE RECORD, IF RECORDS HAD BEEN FORBIDDEN (how they have wished back then), right when this technology has been invented (by the devil ) .

[Chiron]

Can we please stay on topic. This getting a little (a lot )

This is about the E-PARASITES Act

[clockwork]

We speak about factors which are given as "selling arguments" of this act

"Fear" of others, "fear" of losing profit. Do you want to be free of fear? Say yes to our great act.

A wall is a wall. No matter where it is built. Thats on topic

[SiberLynx]

Can we please stay on topic. This getting a little (a lot )
This is about the E-PARASITES Act

Indeed!

Prevention of cyber warfare and and industrial espionage are not exactly the remit of these bills.

Sure & you were few min in front of me with your post … therefore I decided “not to…”, but now when there are few posts after that

Source, Citation?

this is redundant  within this thread  because sure it may go way !  
… since, some people are not reading things in the 1st place and are too much brain washed whether it’s government or (some known ) Security Suites involved
The above message is to christarzan
 

Its not like your country had never taken from others....  

1st, few latest post of yours here & in different threads (you know what I mean) are worth reading
Enough said… otherwise …. No I have to stop … hoping this thread will not go completely  
Cheers!

[Radaghast]

Indeed!Sure & you were few min in front of me with your post … therefore I decided “not to…”, but now when there are few posts after that  this is redundant  within this thread  because sure it may go way !  

Quite right, I took the bait to easily, my bad 

So, here's a nice little video explaining things 

http://fightforthefuture.org/pipa/

[christarzan]

Its not like your country had never taken from others....
basically it took everything from others, ask the indians, or the africans.
I just wanted to mention this.
And you will find some technology of this kind to.

Its not allways the others.

Is china for you, that theres a place where people are building things for you for cheap? And only u.s. people are able to invent planes, ships and space stations, so everyone else who builts things like that, MUST HAVE STOLEN IT???
Example?
In china has been the first official notified rocket start in history. And in romania there was the first 3 step rocket that was noted in the books.  
Do you think, if others built a plane carrier, china will built wood boats?


About the plans.
They can go ahead with censorship for profit, and they will lose profit. They will never see how people learn about new music on youtube, how they hear a song on the cassette player of a friend and get interested. They would not have as many customers as they have, if no one would have access.
Even more, they WOULDNT HAVE SOLD A SINGLE RECORD, IF RECORDS HAD BEEN FORBIDDEN (how they have wished back then), right when this technology has been invented (by the devil ) .

It would be nice if you learned English

I started with "Well, I wish" and of course I am  

I never said that US doesn't take technologies from other countries.

Chinese are the world's most number one cyber-espionage culprit. It is a well know fact. The Russians ranks second.

Just a few news clips from a lot of them this year itself

Russia arrests Chinese 'spy' in row over defence weapons

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/05/russia-arrests-chinese-translator-spying

Congressman lambastes Chinese cyber-espionage

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/checkpoint-washington/post/congressman-lambasts-chinese-cyber-espionage/2011/10/04/gIQA5SM7KL_blog.html

China’s Growing Spy Threat

http://the-diplomat.com/2011/09/19/chinas-growing-spy-threat/

In 2010 Itself there were 11 cases that were prosecuted

Keep in mind that if 11 cases were found and prosecuted, it means there are so many of them that are not yet found or found but lacked evidences to prosecuted them

http://www.warisboring.com/2011/01/26/chinese-espionage-in-the-u-s-in-2010

Quote :

In 2010, 11 Chinese espionage cases were prosecuted in the United States, the highest number yet, and they featured a wide range of espionage targets.

Ten of the 11 cases involved technology acquisition, and five were overt attempts to purchase and illegally export encryption devices, mobile-phone components, high-end analog-to-digital converters, microchips designed for aerospace applications and radiation-hardened semiconductors. These technologies can be used in a wide range of Chinese industries. While the mobile-phone technology would be limited to Chinese state-owned enterprises (SOEs) such as China Mobile, the aerospace-related microchips could be used in anything from rockets to fighter jets.

Chinese Turbine Firm Tied to Software Theft

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904563904576589083216660532.html

Chinese Espionage and French Trade Secrets

http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20110119-chinese-espionage-and-french-trade-secrets

High profile China-Taiwan spy case sends tremor through strengthening ties

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-Pacific/2011/0211/High-profile-China-Taiwan-spy-case-sends-tremor-through-strengthening-ties

Two Silicon Valley Cases Raise Fears of Chinese Espionage

http://www.economicespionage.com/WSJ.htm


China's new stealth fighter may use US technology

http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2011-01-23/news/28426303_1_stealth-fighter-secret-stealth-technologies-davor-domazet-loso

Every day the US is under heavy cyber attack


These are news from 2011 itself. There are so many others.

WELL, THE US doesn't cyber esponage China cause they have nothing of value than Panda Bear reproduction secrets. LOL


Every day the US is under heavy cyber attack

The reason you don't hear it in the media is because the general American population doesn't know anything about CYBER ATTACKS

U.S. Must Protect Power Grid From Cyberattack, MIT Study Shows

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/12/05/us-must-protect-power-grid-from-cyberattack-mit-study-shows/

FBI and Homeland Security launch probe as foreign cyber attackers target U.S. water supply

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2063444/Cyber-attack-US-water-supply-traced-Russia-FBI-Homeland-Security-launch-probe.html

US vulnerable to cyber attacks: military chief

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45469416/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/us-vulnerable-cyber-attacks-military-chief/


Made in China? A History of Reverse Engineering

There is nothing 'made in China'. Most of them are just reverse engineered.

http://manglermuldoon.blogspot.com/2011/08/made-in-china-history-of-reverse.html




Threat from Cyber Attacks Nearing Statistical Certainty

http://www.securityweek.com/threat-cyber-attacks-nearing-statistical-certainty



How bad was the cyber attack on Lockheed Martin?

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/terrorism-security/2011/0529/How-bad-was-the-cyber-attack-on-Lockheed-Martin

I agree most of this is  

I was just trying to show a glimpes, just a glimpse of the importances of protecting US Cyber Space.

I booted my COMODO FIREWALL 

[HeffeD]

It would be nice if you learned English

Consider yourself warned christarzan.

Not only are you off topic, (even after a moderator made a post about staying on topic...) but you are now attacking other members. Neither of these are allowed on this forum.

Please read the Forum Policy and adjust your posting strategy accordingly.

This topic is about the E-Parasites Act. Anything else is off-topic! Do not continue to post off-topic in this thread.

Thank you.

[christarzan]

Consider yourself warned christarzan.

Not only are you off topic, (even after a moderator made a post about staying on topic...) but you are now attacking other members. Neither of these are allowed on this forum.

Please read the Forum Policy and adjust your posting strategy accordingly.

This topic is about the E-Parasites Act. Anything else is off-topic! Do not continue to post off-topic in this thread.

Thank you.

What constitutes an attack?

Didn't he attack me?

How can asking someone to read what i wrote carefully be an attack?

I apologize if that was an attack.

[HeffeD]

You didn't ask to read what you wrote carefully, you said it would be nice if they learned English...

Edit: Meant to write, "wrote" instead of "quote". Fixed.

[Radaghast]

Kaspersky Dumps Anti-Piracy Group in SOPA Protest

[clockwork]

Didn't he attack me?

1)You said, chinese and russian.
    I said, dont forget the usa.

2)They find for each law an argument, and the best argument is "fear". Because everyone understands fear.
    I said, a wall is a wall, no matter where it is.

Dont see attacking in that.

You could explain in another language, what mistakes i made in english
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Funny example of english language:
gh=f (enough)
o=i (women)
ti=sh (nation)

"ghoti" would be spoken like "fish" ....

[HeffeD]

That is enough off-topic discussion. 

[Radaghast]

If anyone watched the SOPA markup hearing today, you'll have realised just how little the 'law makers' that are trying to push this bill through, actually understand about the workings of the Internet 

Fight the Blacklist

[Chiron]

Well, I wish they do more to prevent cyber attacks from China and Russia and other places.

They steal technologies and patents that people in this country worked hard.

The Chinese are building a space station, aircraft carriers, and next generation fighter jets.

All from stolen technologies from the US

This is OT, please refrain from posting in topics that are not related to your worries.

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