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Firewall Options.
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Which options are best for a Home User (i connect trough DSL, there are no other devices on my Network)
i've marked Protect Arp Cache, Block Fragmented IP Dg., Do Protocol Analysis, Monitor NDIS protocol other than TCP/IP
i've read through Comodo Help and its a bit cryptic for me..
how do i treat P2P programs like uTorrent? should i put it on my Thrust list, choose outgoing only or another option?
I'm sorry if those question are noobish, first time using CIS, i will post any other questions on this topic.
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Re: Firewall Options.
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Quote from: fell_cbr on June 16, 2012, 07:03:00 PM
Which options are best for a Home User (i connect trough DSL, there are no other devices on my Network)
i've marked Protect Arp Cache, Block Fragmented IP Dg., Do Protocol Analysis, Monitor NDIS protocol other than TCP/IP
i've read through Comodo Help and its a bit cryptic for me..
how do i treat P2P programs like uTorrent? should i put it on my Thrust list, choose outgoing only or another option?
I'm sorry if those question are noobish, first time using CIS, i will post any other questions on this topic.
Choose
Proactive Security
All I have checked are
Block Fragmented IP
and
Do Protocol Analysis
. You may run into trouble having
Protect Arp Cache
checked (this is for advanced setups). Run the Stealth Ports Wizard and choose
Block all incoming connections and make my ports stealth for everyone
. You can check your ports here:
https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
My uTorrent settings: I allow it in the Sandbox as Trusted and in my Network Security Policy I have 2 custom rules:
Allow TCP Out From Mac Any to Mac Any Where Source Port Is Any And Destination Port Is Any
Allow UDP Out From Mac Any to Mac Any Where Source Port Is Any And Destination Port Is Any
uTorrent works fine with these settings on my system. In uTorrent under
Connection
, choose
Randomize Port Each Start
. You can open uTorrent and see which port it's using and then check that port at Shields UP! You should find that it is stealthed.
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Re: Firewall Options.
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June 16, 2012, 09:30:35 PM »
Quote from: L.A.R. Grizzly on June 16, 2012, 07:11:58 PM
Choose
Proactive Security
All I have checked are
Block Fragmented IP
and
Do Protocol Analysis
. You may run into trouble having
Protect Arp Cache
checked (this is for advanced setups). Run the Stealth Ports Wizard and choose
Block all incoming connections and make my ports stealth for everyone
. You can check your ports here:
https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
My uTorrent settings: I allow it in the Sandbox as Trusted and in my Network Security Policy I have a custom rule:
Allow TCP Out From Mac Any to Mac Any Where Source Port Is Any And Destination Port Is Any
Allow UDP Out From Mac Any to Mac Any Where Source Port Is Any And Destination Port Is Any
uTorrent works fine with these settings on my system. In uTorrent under
Connection
, choose
Randomize Port Each Start
. You can open uTorrent and see which port it's using and then check that port at Shields UP! You should find that it is stealthed.
Why Sandbox uTorrent? i don't know if theres anything that will make uTorrent misbehave, it doesn't update sometimes?
you say i may run into troube enabling Protect Arp Cache, what may happen?
if i enable randomize ports on utorrent say, if he used por X on my last session and now he is going to use Y does he close port X?
sometimes i get alerts that says that my system is trying to receive a connection from the internet like the one on the attached screenshot, is that normal behavior (windows checking for update or something) ?
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Re: Firewall Options.
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June 16, 2012, 10:07:03 PM »
Quote from: fell_cbr on June 16, 2012, 09:30:35 PM
1) Why Sandbox uTorrent? i don't know if theres anything that will make uTorrent misbehave, it doesn't update sometimes?
2) you say i may run into troube enabling Protect Arp Cache, what may happen?
3) if i enable randomize ports on utorrent say, if he used por X on my last session and now he is going to use Y does he close port X?
4) sometimes i get alerts that says that my system is trying to receive a connection from the internet like the one on the attached screenshot, is that normal behavior (windows checking for update or something) ?
1) I don't Sandbox uTorrent, I have it as a trusted file.
2)
http://forums.comodo.com/index.php?action=search2
Just type in ARP Cache.
You can try this setting if you want. Previously, there were many complaints when the average user had this checked. I think I remember that it's not necessary unless you are networking.
From CIS Help:
"It should be noted, that a successful ARP attack
is almost always dependent on the hacker having physical access to your network or direct control of a machine on your network
- therefore this setting is of more relevance to network administrators than home users."
http://help.comodo.com/topic-72-1-284-3024-Advanced-Settings.html
http://forums.comodo.com/firewall-help-cis/protect-the-arp-cache-t61591.0.html;msg433911#msg433911
3) Yes. uTorrent closes the previous port and chooses another when reopened.
4) Did you choose Proactive Security? You may have a Windows setting that requires incoming connections (such as Windows Automatic Updates).
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Re: Firewall Options.
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June 16, 2012, 11:07:56 PM »
Quote from: L.A.R. Grizzly on June 16, 2012, 10:07:03 PM
1) I don't Sandbox uTorrent, I have it as a trusted file.
2)
http://forums.comodo.com/index.php?action=search2
Just type in ARP Cache.
You can try this setting if you want. Previously, there were many complaints when the average user had this checked. I think I remember that it's not necessary unless you are networking.
From CIS Help:
"It should be noted, that a successful ARP attack
is almost always dependent on the hacker having physical access to your network or direct control of a machine on your network
- therefore this setting is of more relevance to network administrators than home users."
http://help.comodo.com/topic-72-1-284-3024-Advanced-Settings.html
http://forums.comodo.com/firewall-help-cis/protect-the-arp-cache-t61591.0.html;msg433911#msg433911
3) Yes. uTorrent closes the previous port and chooses another when reopened.
4) Did you choose Proactive Security? You may have a Windows setting that requires incoming connections (such as Windows Automatic Updates).
That was very.. very helpful
Yes, i'm using proactive security since i've read chiron's guide..
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Re: Firewall Options.
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June 17, 2012, 03:14:15 PM »
I did a leak test and those were the results
how can i improve my results?
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Re: Firewall Options.
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June 17, 2012, 03:35:53 PM »
Quote from: fell_cbr on June 17, 2012, 03:14:15 PM
how can i improve my results?
Simply, don't use the leak test! It wasn't designed to test Comodo with the new Sandbox feature. It's quite old.
http://forums.comodo.com/install-setup-configuration-help-cis/where-can-i-download-this-comodo-firewall-551957861383-t84885.0.html;msg606020#msg606020
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Re: Firewall Options.
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June 18, 2012, 11:30:49 AM »
However a useful test it is old in the sense of that it is made to test a HIPS only solution. The sandbox will skew results. You may want to read
Getting Accurate Leak Test Results
to learn more how to test with sandbox enabled.
Or follow
How To Install & Configure CIS for Max Protection & Min Alerts
if you want a quick and easy solution.
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Please read:
Introduction to the 5.x Sandbox
With CIS v4 my p2p client (uTorrent, e Mule...) is not working properly anymore
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Re: Firewall Options.
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June 18, 2012, 05:19:24 PM »
Making port 445 available to the internet is asking for trouble.
http://www.grc.com/port_445.htm
Making Utorrent "trusted" is also asking for trouble.
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Re: Firewall Options.
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Quote from: BoredNow on June 18, 2012, 05:19:24 PM
Making Utorrent "trusted" is also asking for trouble.
A "trusted file" just means that it's not Sandboxed. The program is still covered by D+ and the Firewall.
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Re: Firewall Options.
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June 18, 2012, 05:33:45 PM »
Rules...
https://forums.comodo.com/firewall-help-cis/utorrent-help-t84531.0.html;msg603907#msg603907
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Quote from: BoredNow on June 18, 2012, 05:33:45 PM
Rules...
https://forums.comodo.com/firewall-help-cis/utorrent-help-t84531.0.html;msg603907#msg603907
Those are Firewall Rules and have nothing to do with the Trusted Files List in D+.
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Quote from: L.A.R. Grizzly on June 16, 2012, 07:11:58 PM
...and in my Network Security Policy I have a custom rule:
Allow TCP Out From Mac Any to Mac Any Where Source Port Is Any And Destination Port Is Any
Allow UDP Out From Mac Any to Mac Any Where Source Port Is Any And Destination Port Is Any
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Re: Firewall Options.
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I don't allow any incoming.
uTorrent randomly chooses ports from 10000 to 65535, so I see no need to set port ranges.
So, except for port ranges, how do my settings differ from Rule 2 and Rule 3?
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Re: Firewall Options.
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June 18, 2012, 09:58:39 PM »
Quote from: BoredNow on May 26, 2012, 11:02:37 AM
Rule 6
Action = Block (enable Log as a firewall event if this rule is fired)
Protocol = IP
Direction = In/OUT
Description = Block and Log All Unmatching Requests
Source Address = Any
Destination Address = Any
IP Details = Any
the guides you refer poin to blocking out..your sixth rule for blocking is In and Out, why?
EDIT: Should i also disable "Do Protocol analysis" while torrenting?
EDIT2: On your TCP out rule, the destination port is a port set, why not only use port 80? should i also create a global rule?
On my Global Rules i have this..
http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/8161/53812085.jpg
doesnt the two rules overlap each other?
EDIT 5? : is it okay to have a lot of events on the firewall, some of them are IPV6 with those rules
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3751/97948808.jpg
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