I can show proof Symatic (nortan) RARELY protects you from new infections IMO

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[jay2007tech]

Do you want to see nortan in action against malware in real-time?  It's not good IMO

go to www.virscan.org

scroll to the bottom and click on each file to show who detected what, After going through it, click "refresh/reload on your browser" so it can show your more

what do you guys think

[Kyle]

Why can't we all just agree that all av's suck? it's not 1 particular av  

[jay2007tech]

Why can't we all just agree that all av's suck? it's not 1 particular one

because nortan is very aggressive in bad mouthing other product.  Generally, companys do that one way or other, but nortan is too aggressive.  

Generally, f-prot, Ikarus, avira generally seem to be the best when comparing it on that site over time.  

Why can't we all just agree that all av's suck? it's not 1 particular one

Also, I felt it was to point out on how inportant it defence + is (or and good HIPS for that matter)

[Dch48]

Norton 2010 did very well in Matt's (Mrizos) latest review even if he didn't completely understand how the trusted files portion of it works. NIS 2010 blocked everything thrown at it except for one new rogue that even though it did install itself, was prevented from delivering it's payload which is to make you pay for it. I was extremely impressed.

Matt thought that the trusted files portion of Norton should exclude anything it rates as being untrusted but that's now how it works. In NIS, untrusted does not mean bad, it simply means that not enough people have contributed data about the file yet for it to either make the trusted list or to be classified as bad. Therefore it makes the program list but is classified as untrusted.

[HeffeD]

It also did well in Languys test.

I think Symantec has realized they need to step up to keep competitive.

[jay2007tech]

I think Symantec has realized they need to step up to keep competitive.

It's probably because MSE has come into the picture.  There biggest customer base is businesses and people that don't understand computers very well.  They used to be good 

There's nothing wrong with competition, It's being deceptive that's the problem.  Like paying for a perfect test score is a good example (the wilders forum is all over that one).  Or how about their so called new "sonar technology".  Using a military word.   What are they trying to hint, their software is military grade    I'm going to stop there other wise I'll be going on and on

[Dch48]

I think it's more that when a testing entity is requested to test anybody's new product, they charge a fee. I don't think it was Symantec going to them and saying, "Hey do a test on our product and rate it high and we'll pay you x amount of dollars". Wilders was also claiming that Comodo paid Matousec to get CIS rated higher. I think that when these tests are requested, there is no guarantee of results. The chips fall where they may.

[jay2007tech]

Wilders was also claiming that Comodo paid Matousec to get CIS rated higher. I think that when these tests are requested, there is no guarantee of results. The chips fall where they may.

If I remeber correctly, they only had to fix one thing to get a perfect score in the past and they finally did it.  Of course, I may be wrong on this

[Dch48]

That's my understanding too. In the report on that test where CIS got 100%, they said they were going to ramp up the tests now. That tells me they don't want any product getting a perfect score and that's okay.

[Kyle]

You refer to wilders as one person. Wilders (just like this forum) Is made up of thousands of people.
One person, made that comment. So?

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