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« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2009, 03:59:12 PM »

"Even if the tester is a member of AMTSO, that doesn’t mean at all that they have the automatic endorsement of the organization for their testing.
Indeed, they’re at least as liable as anyone else to have their adherence to the AMTSO principles scrutinized by the Review Analysis Board."

Said another AMTSO member, David Harley, not long ago whereas the rest of his article made a point that claiming compliance for some tests "doesn't mean that they are proven to comply or have the blessing of AMTSO".

I would guess if any tester makes a point of claiming that his/her methodology is conformant with the AMTSO guidelines, his/her tests should be reviewed (or pending review) by AMTSO Review Analysis board.

Nevertheless it appears that "AMTSO compliance" it is still up to debate and there is no telling what the final definition of the whole organization will be.

Whereas such forthcoming agreement will undoubtedly reflect what value AMTSO, its boards and its "compliance" is actually going to hold for the time being.
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« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2009, 01:07:19 AM »

sometimes waiting for AMTSO compliant test's reminds one of "Waiting for Godot".
The wait is interminable,and you never what what you will get at the end.
Plus most of the action takes place while waiting.
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« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2009, 06:29:01 AM »

Guess it ought to be clarified at the end if an entire board that review tests for AMTSO compliance can be superseded by any single tester with few lines of text whereas researchers of other fields are used to submit their works for Peer review before publication.

In addition to the current result of providing "advices", as an organization AMTSO would be able to fulfill the above role and have AV tests finally take one step forward by factual procedures.
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« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2009, 06:45:07 AM »

All I wanna say is i was not very happy norton
There are no such PROOF! as a test paid perfect score!!

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« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2009, 09:25:11 AM »

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All I can say is Norton is full of bullsh#t lies about there security anti-virus product
I agree, If they had to rely on HONEST marketing.  They would probably be screwed IMO

Look at some of the words used.  Let's say  "sonar" for example

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SONAR (Symantec™ Online Network for Advanced Response) technology
Gee, there using a military word for this.  I wonder what there trying to imply?Huh? like there  military grade or something

Plus Symantec seems to be getting pretty aggressive and deceptive(their choice in wording things) in there marketing lately.  To me, if you have a good product, it doesn't require much marketing for something to sell

On a funny note,  Maybe   Billy maze(the infomercial guy) could help them Evil
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« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2009, 09:50:05 AM »

I used Norton for over 10 years and I can say with no reservations that their products provide very good protection. I was never infected nor hacked in all that time and Norton found and prevented a number of attempts.

If you want to hear something amazing, listen to this. I have installed MSE on the other machine here and joined their forums. Someone there asked if they needed anything other than MSE to be protected and a Moderator told them that all they needed to be fully protected was MSE and--- the Windows Firewall.
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« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2009, 07:32:43 AM »

Moderator told them that all they needed to be fully protected was MSE and--- the Windows Firewall.

Please don't make me laugh so hard and end up peeing myself Tongue
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« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2009, 01:28:18 PM »

What's wrong with MSE and windows Firewall....?
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« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2009, 01:50:58 PM »

What's wrong with MSE and windows Firewall....?
Nothing if you only meet up with what it happens to know about.   Anything else can do what it likes.

Surprised you should ask that question.
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« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2009, 02:33:56 PM »

How often do you come in contact with malware really? If it's regularly then your probably doing something you shouldn't (testing unknown apps on real system etc..)


EDIT: Now with Vista\Win7 UAC is enabled by default.
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« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2009, 02:46:23 PM »

How often do you come in contact with malware really? If it's regularly then your probably doing something you shouldn't (testing unknown apps on real system etc..)


EDIT: Now with Vista\Win7 UAC is enabled by default.

How about browsing dodgy web-sites?  Regardless, eg. Sandboxie is all you need for that.
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« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2009, 07:58:10 PM »

   
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What's wrong with MSE and windows Firewall....?
      Nothing. It's a good setup.


   
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How often do you come in contact with malware really?
      In fact, rarely.

   
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How about browsing dodgy web-sites?
      Just use WOT. wich it's what we all should be advising to our friends and family.


   Advices:
         Keep Windows updated.
         Check WOT's ratings.
         Don't open strange e-mails.
         Mind your torrents anf IM's sites.
         Scan with MBAM regularly.

   Common sense. To browse the web is like walking the street; you'll have to watch your step.
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« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2009, 09:49:36 PM »

         Nothing. It's a good setup.


         In fact, rarely.

         Just use WOT. wich it's what we all should be advising to our friends and family.


   Advices:
         Keep Windows updated.
         Check WOT's ratings.
         Don't open strange e-mails.
         Mind your torrents anf IM's sites.
         Scan with MBAM regularly.

   Common sense. To browse the web is like walking the street; you'll have to watch your step.

But what if you want to visit the dodgy web-site?  I enjoy the freedom of surfing any web-site with Sandboxie.
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« Reply #28 on: November 04, 2009, 12:30:46 AM »

Your not an average user, You know much more then my grandfather etc and would know not to visit a dodgy website with the right application(s).

A normal user who visits dodgy websites is asking for trouble.
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« Reply #29 on: November 04, 2009, 12:32:10 AM »

No need for the cursing\product bashing in such high degree.. please edit post.


(Surprised mods havn't done something yet?  Huh)
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