Feedback: CFP 3 "Basic Installation" [Merged]

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[gaslad]

I was surprised to read the following from Scot Finnie's blog today:
"I have learned directly from Comodo executives that the Basic Firewall installation option of Comodo 3 does not offer any outbound leak protection whatsoever. They may add that protection in a future version of Comodo 3.x."
http://blog.scotsnewsletter.com/2008/01/20/do-not-rely-on-comodo-3s-basic-firewall/

Although I use the default-installed Advanced+/Hips without problems, I'm seeing folks opting for the basic install, believing it provides at least some outbound protection. Have they been mislead? I don't recall seeing anything about this in the help files.

[munckman]

Most unfortunate to say the least. One would have thought that it would have been mentioned here at COMODO first. Unless I missed it.

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""Not only does this mean that Comodo 3 Basic Firewall is no longer a contender in this blog’s firewall evaluation, but if you are relying on this version of Comodo for your firewall protection, Windows XP users should switch to Online Armor FREE version 2.1.0.31 (or newer) and Vista users should uninstall Comodo 3 and reinstall it, choosing the “Advanced” installation option.""

[landsker]

See here:- http://tinyurl.com/2z62h6

 

[Japo]

This has already been said before in the forums. CFP 3 relies on Defense+ for leakproof protection. The "basic" installation does provide outbound protection but it's relatively easy to leak (however its inbound protection is equally strong), only if you're also using Defense+ (as default) is CFP strongly leakproof. However I think you don't need to uninstall and reinstall as Scot says in order to activate Defense+, just go to "Defense+ > Advanced > Defense+ Settings > General Settings" and change the last option, a reboot is then necessary.

[sded]

For Vista, I would use the Windows firewall in preference to the basic version without D+.  For XP, without D+, I think Comodo V2 (although I never used it with XP) and several other options (I used lots of others with XP ) would be better choices.   Turning off D+ as a temporary means to help solve installation or operational problems is convenient, but not a preferred long term firewall solution. 

[foxman]

For Vista, I would use the Windows firewall in preference to the basic version without D+.  For XP, I think Comodo V2 and several other options would be better choices. <<snipped>>  ...

I don't get it, so you are saying XP users should revert back to V2???

[Rafel]

I don't get it, so you are saying XP users should revert back to V2???

If you don't use D+ only.

[Ed_P]

 

http://blog.scotsnewsletter.com/2008/01/20/do-not-rely-on-comodo-3s-basic-firewall/

 

[gaslad]

I was under the impression that the whole point of installing a third party firewall is to provide outbound protection.

If the basic install of CFP doesn't provide this (and Finnie says it provides none whatsoever), one might just as well stick with Windows' integrated firewall. Am I missing something here?

[Melih]

Hi Guys

I am totally pissed off at what Scott did!
And you can read my reasons why here

http://forums.comodo.com/feedbackcommentsannouncementsnews/how_would_you_rate_comodo_personal_firewall_and_what_to_improve-t24.0.html;msg127424#msg127424

Melih

[WaterWall]

Scott, don't mean to disrespect, but that's REALLY wrong ! 

[panic]

Feedback left on Scots blog

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Hey Scott,

Minor correction - no need to uninstall Comodo V3 firewall to activate the HIPS component. It can simply be enabled in the GUI, although you will need to reboot so the low level hooks are made effective.

Out of curiousity, imagine a user, installing any firewall, voluntarily chooses to disable the HIPS component (or similar low level hooks) and also ignores the warnings detailing the consequences of doing so, are they reduced to the same level as Comodo?   

Cheers :-)

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[pitzelberger]

you can as well disable the HIPS feature of OA. Not during installation but in the GUI. I am wondering whats the difference between disabling Defense + and OA's HIPS. Wouldn't OA become as well a non-leak-proof Firewall? 

[tlu]

Hi Guys

I am totally pissed off at what Scott did!
And you can read my reasons why here

http://forums.comodo.com/feedbackcommentsannouncementsnews/how_would_you_rate_comodo_personal_firewall_and_what_to_improve-t24.0.html;msg127424#msg127424

Melih

Melih, I completely understand your frustration. It's obvious that Scott didn't understand what he was writing about. By the way, I've never understood the complaints about Defense+. I'm running it in "Clean PC Mode", and I have definitely fewer popups than with most other HIPS I've tried - there's really no reason to disable it. The only feature which I'd like to be improved is the "My Pending Files" issue.

[pedropete]

Hi Guys

I am totally pissed off at what Scott did!
And you can read my reasons why here

http://forums.comodo.com/feedbackcommentsannouncementsnews/how_would_you_rate_comodo_personal_firewall_and_what_to_improve-t24.0.html;msg127424#msg127424

Melih

Hi Melih

I have read your post and can understand why you are PIs---- off.
Reading your comments if for some reason i have major problem with Defence+, i will now feel save just using CF3 in basic firewall mode.

Even though i am not the sharpest tool in the shed, i understood you explanation of how the basic firewall works.

Cheers

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