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Why does Comodo not join tests (AV-Comparatives, AV-Test, etc.)?
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February 23, 2013, 08:15:49 AM »
As said above. I know some magazines like PC Mag review Comodo but why doesn't comodo join those tests?
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There was a conflict between comodo and AV-comparatives.
http://forums.comodo.com/melihs-corner-ceo-talkdiscussionsblog/avcomparativesorg-bullying-censorship-and-financial-dealscontinued-t78934.0.html
I am unsure about AV-tests.
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but AFAIK there is no any conflicts with other testers
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February 23, 2013, 03:45:24 PM »
It would be good to know what's the case with AV-Test. But I think it comes down to money issue for testing.
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Re: Why does Comodo not join tests (AV-Comparatives, AV-Test, etc.)?
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Everyone seems to put everything on these preposterous tests.Tests are meaningless and indicate nothing.End users are not going to come across a quarter of what ever malware is tested with so the figures and "results" are useless in that respect.
The only test im worried about is if i come across a malware(which is seldom) and my security product deals with it effectively and that is a pass in my book.Its all about money with these testing organisations and the more the vendors pay in then the higher the result.
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Re: Why does Comodo not join tests (AV-Comparatives, AV-Test, etc.)?
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Quote from: Mrarnold. on February 23, 2013, 04:19:14 PM
Its all about money with these testing organisations and the more the vendors pay in then the higher the result.
Are you suggesting that all testing organizations are corrupt?
If so I strongly disagree with this. Please provide proof for such a ridiculous statement. I do believe that most of the tests are meaningless, at least for products that are default deny, but I absolutely do not believe that the vast vast majority are corrupt.
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Quote from: Chiron on February 23, 2013, 04:39:14 PM
Are you suggesting that all testing organizations are corrupt?
If so I strongly disagree with this. Please provide proof for such a ridiculous statement. I do believe that most of the tests are meaningless, at least for products that are default deny, but I absolutely do not believe that the vast vast majority are corrupt.
How do you know what really goes on behind closed doors with these organisations.
Im not saying they are all corrupt but how many FREE testing organisations are there??
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Quote from: Mrarnold. on February 23, 2013, 05:22:10 PM
How do you know what really goes on behind closed doors with these organisations.
Im not saying they are all corrupt but how many FREE testing organisations are there??
I'm just pointing out that this is not the sort of allegation which can be made without proof.
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It is not an allegation it is just an observation.It is how the world works unfortunately.Honestly if we took these tests seriously we would all be using the kaspersky,s and bitdefenders of the world.
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Re: Why does Comodo not join tests (AV-Comparatives, AV-Test, etc.)?
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Quote from: Mrarnold. on February 23, 2013, 06:09:00 PM
It is not an allegation it is just an observation.It is how the world works unfortunately.Honestly if we took these tests seriously we would all be using the kaspersky,s and bitdefenders of the world.
it is always a question of how you do interpreting the test results. No Test can show all and no Test can show real world scenarios. So, sure, dont believe all! But they can show nearly a real world scenario if it is a good Test and have the same base for all competitors.
in the most cases you can see in the methodology whether it is a good test (and testorganisiation) or not.
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Re: Why does Comodo not join tests (AV-Comparatives, AV-Test, etc.)?
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This is not the first thread about this topic.
Caution, I'm keeping an eye on this,
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Quote from: Mrarnold. on February 23, 2013, 04:19:14 PM
Everyone seems to put everything on these preposterous tests.Tests are meaningless and indicate nothing.
I cannot agree with it.
Quote from: Mrarnold. on February 23, 2013, 04:19:14 PM
End users are not going to come across a quarter of what ever malware is tested with so the figures and "results" are useless in that respect.
IMHO not even a quarter but closer to less then 1%. But anyway these tests are useful.
Quote from: Mrarnold. on February 23, 2013, 04:19:14 PM
The only test im worried about is if i come across a malware(which is seldom) and my security product deals with it effectively and that is a pass in my book.
Most probably the scenario you can encounter is tested by these tests.
Quote from: Mrarnold. on February 23, 2013, 04:19:14 PM
Its all about money with these testing organisations and the more the vendors pay in then the higher the result.
You need evidence to write such strong statements.
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Quote from: Seany007 on February 23, 2013, 03:45:24 PM
It would be good to know what's the case with AV-Test. But I think it comes down to money issue for testing.
Also Im-Shady58... Do you
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I guess I did...
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Quote from: Mrarnold. on February 23, 2013, 04:19:14 PM
.Its all about money with these testing organisations and the more the vendors pay in then the higher the result.
Totally wrong.
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Quote from: spywar on February 24, 2013, 12:42:00 PM
Totally wrong.
its not wrong at all... there are tests where one vendor pay it and says how must be the methodology for the best result for themselves and who must be the competitors. But that is not the case at all! par example, AV-Test and AV-Comparatives, there is the same base for all! All must pay the same, good methodology and all vendors are agree with the rules if they decide to take part of this tests.
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