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« on: August 02, 2009, 11:14:58 PM »

Okay, after reading for hours the long lasting discussions everywhere on the forum, the ones regarding with the many popups generated by CIS. There is an easier way to fight against it.
Its simple,
1- Updates the whitelist as a blacklist does. (Dont get me wrong, i mean to update it as continously as a blacklist.)
2- The whitelist has to use more common method to recognize program. (I mean, the current solution of using digital signatures will not work.Why? because note every vendor signs every  file they make. It should be checked by MD-5 or a like method that cannot be spoofed. A method that in the way that every file canbe recognized no matter who maked it.

And 3. (For the sake of usability).
TO MAKE THE WHITELIST OPTIONAL, and to permit the user to make changes to it.


I mean, it should be easier to mantain a Whitelist than a Blacklist right? Then why not do it?
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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2009, 11:18:32 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2009, 08:08:34 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2009, 08:25:28 AM »

I can't remember where but there's a thread here somewhere, which states that Comodo are contacting vendors who don't digitally sign their software, to work out some other type of accommodation.

It is being looked at for future versions...

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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2009, 08:28:46 AM »

Here is the post about the Trusted Vendor sign up: https://forums.comodo.com/feedbackcommentsannouncementsnews_cis/trusted_vendor_list_signup-t41074.0.html .
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2009, 02:34:24 AM »

Okay, after reading for hours the long lasting discussions everywhere on the forum, the ones regarding with the many popups generated by CIS. There is an easier way to fight against it.
Its simple,
1- Updates the whitelist as a blacklist does. (Dont get me wrong, i mean to update it as continously as a blacklist.)
2- The whitelist has to use more common method to recognize program. (I mean, the current solution of using digital signatures will not work.Why? because note every vendor signs every  file they make. It should be checked by MD-5 or a like method that cannot be spoofed. A method that in the way that every file canbe recognized no matter who maked it.

And 3. (For the sake of usability).
TO MAKE THE WHITELIST OPTIONAL, and to permit the user to make changes to it.


I mean, it should be easier to mantain a Whitelist than a Blacklist right? Then why not do it?

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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2009, 02:43:48 AM »

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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2009, 04:51:38 AM »

1- Updates the whitelist as a blacklist does. (Dont get me wrong, i mean to update it as continously as a blacklist.)
2- The whitelist has to use more common method to recognize program. (I mean, the current solution of using digital signatures will not work.Why? because note every vendor signs every  file they make. It should be checked by MD-5 or a like method that cannot be spoofed. A method that in the way that every file canbe recognized no matter who maked it.

And 3. (For the sake of usability).
TO MAKE THE WHITELIST OPTIONAL, and to permit the user to make changes to it.

It looks like the white-list is already updated along the blacklist (point 1) and that there is also an hash based withelist (point 2) along with "trusted vendor" white-listing.
Although the hash based whitelist is not editable it is already possible to disable it and trusted vendor white-listing setting D+ in Paranoid mode (part of point 3).

Windows Logo requirements include digitally signing Driver and exacutables though trusted vendor list is meant to safe-list only a specific set of vendors wich can be edited or disabled  (even in CleanPC or safe mode ) according to end users' preferences.

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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2009, 04:53:16 AM »

I would also like to add that CIS should include a Run Safer feature for running specific applications, e.g., Internet-facing applications like IE, Firefox, Outlook, etc., with limited rights afforded by LUA. Online Armor has a Run Safer feature for assigning a LUA token to selected apps. Sure, I could put CIS in Paranoid mode, but I don't want to be nagged by D+ popups just to ensure that my web browser doesn't do malicious things to my system. I'd rather run my web browser with reduced rights, in a DropMyRights fashion.
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