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« on: November 27, 2007, 08:47:24 PM »

 (:WAV)hi all,
i've read it in another forum (non comp/security forum)
the virus name is : Worm.VBWorm.NUJ AKA. Moontox Bro.
so is it true?

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« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2007, 08:50:46 PM »

May I ask you a question firstly?   Why is a now-security expert asking this question?  Is it to tease us non-techie folks? Sad

Googling "Worm.VBWorm.NUJ AKA. Moontox Bro.", I found only 2 search results leading to http://www.vaksin.com/2007/1107/moontox-bro.htm
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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2007, 09:01:09 PM »

 Grin Grin Grin i forgot that i'm an expert now.
Googling "Worm.VBWorm.NUJ AKA. Moontox Bro.", I found only 2 search results leading to http://www.vaksin.com/2007/1107/moontox-bro.htm
oh, so it's true  Shocked  Shocked Shocked . www.vaksin.com is indonesian Norman Virus control website. i hope Defense+ can block it.
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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2007, 09:04:53 PM »

I forgot to answer your thread title question: Nothing is impossible

Some related threads (doesn't necessarily answer your question, but revolves around it):
http://boards.cexx.org/index.php?topic=15787.0;prev_next=prev
http://www.windowsmaven.com/Scan_Virus_Spyware_Safe_Mode.htm
http://wiki.castlecops.com/Malware_Removal:_Trojan_Removal_Programs

They basically state that most malware can't load in safe mode.  "Most" does not = "All".
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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2007, 09:12:30 PM »

I forgot to answer your thread title question: Nothing is impossible
i hate the answer Angry
They basically state that most malware can't load in safe mode. 
i prefer this Grin

of all viruses in all countries, and indonesian create this virus  Angry , why don't they just make some tofu 
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« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2007, 09:38:46 PM »

of all viruses in all countries, and indonesian create this virus  Angry , why don't they just make some tofu 

Don't you be giving the malware programmers any ideas now. *cough* tofu.32.virus *cough*
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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2007, 04:23:21 AM »

Cheesy , so the name "tofu" has already taken
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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2007, 05:04:57 AM »

Wonder how long it will be before there's a 'soya' virus Wink
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« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2007, 05:07:44 AM »

not there yet? hmmm surprising.... Smiley

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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2007, 11:18:07 AM »

The safe mode loads as few services as possible to make Windows go, but it has to load some...
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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2007, 06:07:52 PM »

So there's the answer, I guess. Only a thought....

Yes, "correctly" and "professionally" programmed malware would, of course, and not only in theory, be able at any time to start itself, even if, as a user, being on "safe mode". Yes, of course it's true. And it's a serious problem within this Billy OS, methinks....
(Sorry to say so, but a lot of malware able to exchange sys files would be capable of doing so...)

That's the reason for real preventive software being needed more than ever. The better your preventive measures, the lesser the chance for your sys getting "zombified"...

Cheers, though

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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2007, 07:47:07 PM »

Cheers, though
Angry no cheers for malware,but.........okay  Cheers Cheers  Grin Grin
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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2008, 09:31:12 PM »

(:WAV)hi all,
i've read it in another forum (non comp/security forum)
the virus name is : Worm.VBWorm.NUJ AKA. Moontox Bro.
so is it true?

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As far as i know, its impossible.  Especially because when booting into safe mode, the internet drivers, and several other crucial drivers/services dont load when in safe mode.  If the worm does start up, it is most likely a very crippled version: 

1) most likely dosnt function just runs
2) prob. lost its stealth

Ect, ect.  No worries, actually booting into safe mode has been known to permanantly disable some viruses.  O.o
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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2008, 09:34:19 PM »

As far as i know, its impossible.  Especially because when booting into safe mode, the internet drivers, and several other crucial drivers/services dont load when in safe mode.  If the worm does start up, it is most likely a very crippled version: 

1) most likely dosnt function just runs
2) prob. lost its stealth

Ect, ect.  No worries, actually booting into safe mode has been known to permanantly disable some viruses.  O.o
really ? i love you info-sec  Kiss Kiss
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« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2008, 09:36:40 PM »

really ? i love you info-sec  Kiss Kiss

Np np man.  If you want to get rid of the worm try a system restore.  It may not eliminate the whole worm, but it will most definatly kill its main components so its more useless then well, norton.  (if thats possible Tongue )
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