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« Reply #75 on: February 04, 2008, 05:15:46 PM »

so the story is not over? i didnt even read all cause for me it'sover, as we can talk normally and read stupidities big like an elephant, i will not answer to all that continues to be frustrated cause a free little firewall rules your great comodo.
maybe it's hard to accept but it's like that.
and when u want to talk about a product instead of saying it's crap compare to comodo u'de better test it.
and i can have my own opinion about something. i never said comodo was a bad FW, but U said OA was a poor FW, who u think u are to talking like that?
don't u respect work people sometimes?
with your poor FW that cant even works good on xp and u want to give lessons?
so please, watch in front of your door before u talk.
all exemples u give are crap , false cause ME as difference to U i tested both with all exploits i found on lot of sites.
i dont even understand how u can react like that for something without importance cause u're are the best in the universe.
i hope jetico and OA will slap your ass on vista and give you the place u deserve. last.


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Oh boy..You are the one frustrated here. First of all there is one firewall on my PC so he is the boss, nothing is ruling him. You are so childish man...Anyway why do you think Im interested in other firewalls 'ruling' cfp? Neither does comodo receive revenue from it nor do I as a user. CFP is not comodo's main source of income.
I never said that OA is crap nor I said it was poor. I did try OA free and cfp too, and I prefered the way cfp worked. My choice was not based on protection capabilities. I didn't comment on that.

Sure you can have your personal opinion. But your statements were too general to be considered as personal opinion. You have stated your experiences as facts.

I do respect the work of others, this is why I DID NOT comment negatively on OA or Tall Emu.

What do you mean on examples that are crap?

I will kindly ask you Melih or any moderator with native english to be a judge because I think I wasn't offensive, btw I was accused of things I think I did not say. But if I really was, then those who feel offended with a reason, because of me, then please receive my humblest apology.
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« Reply #76 on: February 04, 2008, 05:19:58 PM »

no alert from your firewall, i'm sorry.
it should block it as OA did.

http://www.matousec.com/info/advisories/plague-in-security-software-drivers.php version 2.4 was not voulnerable.

I do receive alerts from cfp. The test cant even load its driver without me alowing it. Im running (genuine) winxp sp2. Maybe you dont know how to configure it or using the test. Its also possible that its specific to your system. If thats the case I think we will be more than happy to try to help you addressing it.
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« Reply #77 on: February 04, 2008, 05:29:36 PM »

no alert from your firewall, i'm sorry.
it should block it as OA did.
my firewall has a bug?
mouaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaaha.
this tool was coded to crash xp.
the prob is that comodo allow to load the ssdt list then u can launch exploits.
at some parts of the test comodo opens an alert to prevent the crash.
OA just anticipate what comodo cant, that's all.
a bug... i never saw that in my life, is it so hard to admit that OA did the right thing to prevent the list to load as comodo let the exploit start?


You better go play with someone else as i dont have time to reply every nonsense you post.
Here is the popup you can see. 
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« Reply #78 on: February 04, 2008, 05:32:47 PM »

i'm sorry but i'm not sure i would like help from you.
and yes go on by insinuate i'm maybe so stupid to run a simple test.
i think it's not necessary to continue talking with you.
but i will not enter in your game.
i'm stupid? ok nobody's perfect, but to pretend my stupidity in the forum prove you must be clever to talk to people like that.
great judgement about someone u dont even know.
u, u're good ,u.
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« Reply #79 on: February 04, 2008, 05:45:08 PM »

i'm sorry but i'm not sure i would like help from you.
and yes go on by insinuate i'm maybe so stupid to run a simple test.
i think it's not necessary to continue talking with you.
but i will not enter in your game.
i'm stupid? ok nobody's perfect, but to pretend my stupidity in the forum prove you must be clever to talk to people like that.
great judgement about someone u dont even know.
u, u're good ,u.


Isn't it a great irony that only a little while ago you were having a go at people for not knowing how to run a simple testing applications or configure their firewall!!!

Anyway, I hope everything is cleared now. thank you

Melih
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« Reply #80 on: February 04, 2008, 05:52:09 PM »

You are just digging yourself deeper. Nobody said you are stupid except you.
Without letting us loading the driver of the test, it can't get the ssdt list. Anyway I think you misunderstand the goal of the test. RTM!!
Its not a leaktest as egemen have already stated. It was made to test the way the ssdt hooks are implemented. So to get the result of the test I need to allow its driver which I will do, and probe ALL of the hooks that are found on my system not just the ones done by cfp. As it will last for a while, Ill leave it doing its job during night and post the logs tomorrow. Btw the fact it can get the ssdt list does not mean a vulnerabity. If the hooks are implemented correctly, you cant exploit them.

so...

1. CFP prevents the list loading unless you alow it.

2. To have the test work properly you NEED to load that ssdt list. If you are not able to do that, than you cannot test OA with this tool. I repeat myself just in case: the tool is not for testing wether the list can be loaded or not, its about testing the way the hooks are implemented. Note that I didn't say thats its OA'S fault that you cant use the tool. (just before you accuse me of that too...)
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« Reply #81 on: February 04, 2008, 05:54:39 PM »

Isn't it a great irony that only a little while ago you were having a go at people for not knowing how to run a simple testing applications or configure their firewall!!!

Anyway, I hope everything is cleared now. thank you

Melih

It is indeed...anyway, I need to restart. Cfp have just updated to the long-awaited cavs3-preview version Cheers
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« Reply #82 on: February 04, 2008, 05:58:27 PM »

why?
cause they said OA was a bad FW and after that they said they didnt use it a lot.
so if u didnt use it how can u tell OA is bad?
it's non sense.
if u know the firewall then u can tell about it but saying it's bad then telling they dont know it, it's taking people for morons.
i test both OA on xp and comodo on vista.
if i dont know a prog i dont talk about it.
dont try to give me the role of the bad guy, it's easy to  keep what u want and dont look the post in this totality, i didnt start the problem by judging thing i dont even know.
then it's easy to turn one by one to slap me again.
but maybe it will stop.
some people must be intellligents in there.
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« Reply #83 on: February 04, 2008, 06:27:45 PM »

why?
cause they said OA was a bad FW and after that they said they didnt use it a lot.
so if u didnt use it how can u tell OA is bad?
it's non sense.
if u know the firewall then u can tell about it but saying it's bad then telling they dont know it, it's taking people for morons.
i test both OA on xp and comodo on vista.
if i dont know a prog i dont talk about it.
dont try to give me the role of the bad guy, it's easy to  keep what u want and dont look the post in this totality, i didnt start the problem by judging thing i dont even know.
then it's easy to turn one by one to slap me again.
but maybe it will stop.
some people must be intellligents in there.

 Sad This whole topic is at least 50% based on misunderstandings...
You have a point when you say "don't judge what you don't know" but who said OA is a bad firewall? I probably missed the post...I personally did not use OA much as I have already written earlier. (only for about two days) But I did not comment on OA, especially not negatively. You are not a bad guy, neither stupid at all. At least not in my eye. The ironic or maybe sarcastic comments were only made to point out the contradiction between some of your posts. Anyway, it is quite late here. Im going to sleep now. Maybe you should too ailef. Maybe after thinking it over again ( I certainly will) you will see the forest, not just the tree in front of you. Good night/have a nice day all...
Peace.. Cheers

ps: Tomorrow I will post the results of the ssdt hook testing. Btw I doubt v3 is voulnerable, as v 2.4 wasn't. (and that test was made by matousec, not by me)
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« Reply #84 on: February 04, 2008, 10:41:43 PM »

OA : 1st :-)

and the last version of comodo works with kaspersky on xp, good job men. all worked fine.

but,... it seems i saw something at install, i clicked then i saw some prices depend of my choice, comodo is not totally free anymore? and who made the install file? u know u can add the possibility to come back to previous screen, i say that, it's just an idea. maybe u forgot it. so if i make a bad choice i cant go back, that's annoying dont u think?
maybe comodo 3.1 will come next monday.
but it's cool for people that use kaspersky AV on xp that now comodo works fine with it. :-)
keep going on the good work. what i miss a lot is a log like the one on jetico. if OA should add a log like that too, that would be cool.
so as u imagine i stay with OA on xp and comodo on vista. i still wonder why comodo ask me a rule for MS file saying the file is unknow... u could list all trusted applications at the install.
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« Reply #85 on: February 04, 2008, 10:47:44 PM »

OA : 1st :-)

and the last version of comodo works with kaspersky on xp, good job men. all worked fine.

but,... it seems i saw something at install, i clicked then i saw some prices depend of my choice, comodo is not totally free anymore? and who made the install file? u know u can add the possibility to come back to previous screen, i say that, it's just an idea. maybe u forgot it. so if i make a bad choice i cant go back, that's annoying dont u think?
maybe comodo 3.1 will come next monday.
but it's cool for people that use kaspersky AV on xp that now comodo works fine with it. :-)
keep going on the good work. what i miss a lot is a log like the one on jetico. if OA should add a log like that too, that would be cool.
so as u imagine i stay with OA on xp and comodo on vista. i still wonder why comodo ask me a rule for MS file saying the file is unknow... u could list all trusted applications at the install.
Hi alief,

I would invite you to moderate your attitude. OA is a good product and so is CFP. If you prefer OA is ok. But there is no need to continue the flaming.

thanks,
Panagiotis
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« Reply #86 on: February 05, 2008, 07:11:24 AM »

G'day all,

Unfortunatelly I couldn't run the whole ssdt hook probing test as it takes for ages. I needed my computer. Anyway, I'll post the result of the first 17 hooks's test. There is still another 11..Maybe I should had concentrate only on hooks made by cfp. So far all hooks passed the test, although when I woke up this morning (ok noon:P) My computer wasn't normal. Cfp was not running due to some cfpres.dll error, I couldn't open task manager or whatever program that needed a dll to run. Rundll process reported some error. Btw I left my computer at night with cfp's firewall set to block all, and this protection was still alive today, just the gui was not running.

the result (part1) is attached:
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« Reply #87 on: February 05, 2008, 09:10:07 PM »

Hi alief,

I would invite you to moderate your attitude. OA is a good product and so is CFP. If you prefer OA is ok. But there is no need to continue the flaming.

thanks,
Panagiotis

ok man, i'm sorry, but i said that comodo was my choice on vista and notice the fact that now there's no problem with kaspersky and comodo on xp. u did a good job about this problem and i'm happy that there's no conflicts anymore so i congratulate your team for the new build.
there's no flaming by OA : 1st, that was just a little joke. don't give too much importance to this problem we had about those 2 FW. for me it's not important and over. what is important is to try to not fight anymore and keep a good attitude on this forum.
i'll do my best to be like that and hope we can forget this little incident and keep talking about firewalls.
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« Reply #88 on: February 05, 2008, 10:08:06 PM »

OA : 1st :-)

and the last version of comodo works with kaspersky on xp, good job men. all worked fine.

but,... it seems i saw something at install, i clicked then i saw some prices depend of my choice, comodo is not totally free anymore? and who made the install file? u know u can add the possibility to come back to previous screen, i say that, it's just an idea. maybe u forgot it. so if i make a bad choice i cant go back, that's annoying dont u think?
maybe comodo 3.1 will come next monday.
but it's cool for people that use kaspersky AV on xp that now comodo works fine with it. :-)
keep going on the good work. what i miss a lot is a log like the one on jetico. if OA should add a log like that too, that would be cool.
so as u imagine i stay with OA on xp and comodo on vista. i still wonder why comodo ask me a rule for MS file saying the file is unknow... u could list all trusted applications at the install.

What you saw was the option to sign up to one years full cover whereby if you PC gets infected you can call Comodo 24/7 and a technician will be on hand to help clean your machine.
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« Reply #89 on: February 06, 2008, 01:34:56 AM »

What you saw was the option to sign up to one years full cover whereby if you PC gets infected you can call Comodo 24/7 and a technician will be on hand to help clean your machine.

oh, ok that's a cool idea, i didnt know what was this service about.
and my native language is not english, i don't understand all things i read and i didnt go further to see what was about this new option to help people with infected machines.
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