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Ccleaner vs Comodo System Cleaner
« on: March 21, 2009, 05:37:32 PM »
Would love to hear what people think Ccleaner vs Comodo System Cleaner please.

Which one and why? (do feel free to be totally frank pls about either products). (of course lets compare the latest versions of both products)

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Re: Ccleaner vs Comodo System Cleaner
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2009, 06:25:09 PM »
Unfortunatly, CSC in its current state is completely unusable (at least for me) due to some critical bugs, but older versions worked just fine. Registry cleanup module in CSC is much more powerfull than the same in cc. Also, IMO cc's UI looks much better.
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Re: Ccleaner vs Comodo System Cleaner
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2009, 06:35:12 PM »
OK, let's be frank. >:-D

Pro for CCleaner:

1. Just ONE click to clear everything except registry. The Power Clean button of CSC is a step in the right direction but it still requires some confirmations during cleaning.

2. Speed. I think CCleaner is faster to make this complete one-click cleaning.

3. Custom paths in CCleaner is very useful. The Filter Entries in CSC/CDC is nice, but not quite the same as CCleaner's Options | Include (complemented by Exclude).

4. Everything is presented in just one GUI with tab-like style.

5. CCleaner includes privacy cleaning of some applications that CSC lacks. There is however just one example on my system: 7-Zip. Cleaned by CCleaner but not CSC.

These five points are essentially the pros of CCleaner, IMHO. In all other aspects I prefer CSC because I believe it cleans more things, it tweaks the system (Comodo System Settings) and it has SAFE DELETE.

In the end, you can't cover every file a user want to clean. There are things which are not "reasonable" to add to any cleaning application, thus you need to add it through custom paths. I can deny myself all the five points above except one: #3! - and that's the reason why I'm keeping CCleaner along with CSC.

You are so close with CSC, and with the brilliance of development you've showed since you introduced CSC in the first place, I'm sure you can take it even higher and make at least one user (me :D) forget about CCleaner.

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Re: Ccleaner vs Comodo System Cleaner
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2009, 07:10:25 PM »
very useful feedback.

Please keep it coming!

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Re: Ccleaner vs Comodo System Cleaner
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2009, 07:20:13 PM »
I have never really liked Ccleaner so I guess I am not unbiased in my assessment.

Ccleaner has no manual update.
Ccleaner does not have a backup and restore for Windows and Applications clean. (most important)

I do like the way they keep the cookies that you do not want removed, as well as the include exclude files.

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Re: Ccleaner vs Comodo System Cleaner
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2009, 04:42:43 AM »
To me,
Comodo System Cleaner is kind of like CCleaner on steroid

I agree with LeoniAquila on #3, other then that, you put ccleaner's name to shame

Good Job Melih :)

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Re: Ccleaner vs Comodo System Cleaner
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2009, 05:07:31 AM »
I like to right click the Recycle bin, and Run CCleaner to clean. :) Not as powerful as CSC, but quick and safe.

Also, Run CCleaner when computer starts is good for my friends, who don't clean manually. ;)
« Last Edit: March 22, 2009, 05:32:08 AM by JoWa »
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Re: Ccleaner vs Comodo System Cleaner
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2009, 05:43:13 AM »
Hello ;)

Just my two cents worth 88)

CCleaner pros :-TU:
+ easy to use and customise
+ available in a variety of languages
+ nice GUI
+ portable version
+ other pluses which Leoni and Jowa have already mentioned ;)
+ it's free
+ I trust it

CCleaner cons :-TD:
- registry scanning isn't that thorough as in CSC
- no option to do a restore point before cleaning

CSC pros :-TU:
+ powerful registry scanning :-TU
+ backup & SAFE DELETION
+ it's free
+ portable version
+ it's got an amazing team developing it (:CLP)

CSC cons :-TD:
- a bit hard to get the hang of at first
- no multilingual versions
- SAFE DELETION pop-up doesn't always well.....pop up ;D after a reboot
- why is CSC always pestering me if I want to do a restore point before cleaning if I have the appropriate option checked in settings?
- doing a scan is often like playing Russian roulette. Why? Once I did a disk scan and it found more than 1000 errors and it asked me if I wanted to use SAFE DELETION. I said 'Yes'. Upon a reboot I received a pop-up asking me to check if everything was fine so I did it. When I was pretty much sure everything was OK I pressed 'Finalize' and got a BSOD. I kept getting them numerous times (as soon as I logged to the system). I had to resort to a restore point which helped to fix this.
As you can see my trust in CSC has got a little bit undermined :-\.

That's all I can think of right now. Maybe I will add something to the list soon.
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« Last Edit: March 22, 2009, 05:59:36 AM by Sergeant Sykes »

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Re: Ccleaner vs Comodo System Cleaner
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2009, 10:43:44 AM »
To me it is very simple...

CCleaner is fast, easy, clean and requires no reboot. (although not as thorough as CSC)

CSC is a little slower, a little 'clunkier', more thorough but requires manual attention and always requires me to reboot (very annoying!) - i should have the option to 'reboot' later or it should automatically do the fixes the next time i reboot.

Overall i think CSC will be the better product but it needs further development to be more 'sleek', quick and light...of course not losing all the power! :-TU
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Re: Ccleaner vs Comodo System Cleaner
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2009, 11:05:59 AM »
Thank you Melih for starting the thread. There are many good points here, I'm sure it'll help improve CSC.

I think my conclusion/summary is:

CCleaner is lighter and requires less clicks to clean. CSC is more throughout but demands more of the user. As a result, I have CCleaner for every-day-cleaning, and CSC for every-week-cleaning.

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Re: Ccleaner vs Comodo System Cleaner
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2009, 11:23:51 AM »
pls keep it coming.. these are very useful..

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Re: Ccleaner vs Comodo System Cleaner
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2009, 03:15:05 PM »
I agree with what LeoniAquila wrote.

I have another reason I keep using Ccleaner.  It deletes index.dat files. 

Ccleaner shows you that it didn't delete the files right then, but tells you it will delete it the next time the computer starts.
System Cleaner lets you check the box, but then tells you it could not delete index.dat.  I can't find any information on whether it deletes it the next time the computer starts.

*and, System Cleaner does take a little higher learning curve.  I'm still learning, and I'm trying to be very careful with what I delete right now!

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Re: Ccleaner vs Comodo System Cleaner
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2009, 04:35:21 AM »
ccleaner doesn't crash my computer at restart...  :P

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Re: Ccleaner vs Comodo System Cleaner
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2009, 09:52:45 AM »
I will have to go with what other people have said about CCleaner for the most part, because I only used it 3 or 4 times before CSC came out.

CSC seems to be much more thorough, in that it removes many more registry entries and many more junk files than CCleaner did the few times I used it. But, like several of the posters have stated, it can be somewhat adventuresome to use CSC.
- SAFE DELETION pop-up STILL doesn't always pop up after a reboot.
- SAFE DELETION wouldn't even work right, until this latest version, on one of our Vista computers. After clicking the Finalize or Restore buttons, this computer would always immediately reboot and go into a continuous reboot loop. To stop this, a system restore had to be performed.
- The latest version of CSC has inactivated the NIC Netgear SmartWizard interface and, subsequently, the Internet connection on our other Vista Ultimate computer, but not on the one that previously had the SAFE DELETE problem. I had to uninstall and reinstall the Netgear software to get both the Netgear SmartWizard interface and the Internet connectivity to work again. I have not yet isolated whether CRC or CDC was the culprit. But none of the previous versions of CSC caused this to happen.
- I really like the thoroughness that CSC provides when removing both registry entries and temp files, but the system stability and problems encountered after running CRC and CDC indicates CSC has not reached maturity. It is now a Tweener, somewhere between a child throwing temper tantrums and a head-strong teenager that doesn't always cooperate with its parent (user).

I really love Comodo Internet Security and have found it to be very stable, functional and usable, ever since it first came out in Beta, on our XP and all our Vista computers. Comodo System Cleaner is powerful and has huge potential, but the full public release versions have never been as dependable as CIS was in Beta. Some people have complained about CIS 3.8 needing to stay in Beta longer because of problems that appeared after the final release, but I feel that statement applies to CSC, not to CIS. I realize that CSC is a foray into an area that Comodo was not previously involved in, system cleaning, but the problems that have manifested themselves in the public release versions of CSC indicate that it possibly should still be a Beta product. I like CSC, but I make this comment because I never know what to expect after using CSC.

In regards to the SAFE DELETE function in CDC and the REGISTRY PROTECTION function in CRC, I ultimately don't want to have to use them. I want to be able to run CRC and CDC without encountering any problems after running them. I continue to check these two new functions out to see if they are working like they are supposed to, but I currently have to rely on System Restore when either one of these new functions has a problem. System Restore is currently a more reliable way to correct any problems that have occurred as a result of using CSC, but it doesn't always successfully restore the computer to the chosen restore point. If SAFE DELETE and REGISTRY PROTECTION can mature to the point where they work correctly EVERY time, then they will prove that they deserve to be functions included in CSC, since System Restore doesn't work 100% of the time. I feel certain both these new functions will reach that point.

The few times that I used CCleaner, it never created any unexpected problems for the computer I was using it on. I also use Registry FirstAid, now in version 7.0, and it doesn't create any unexpected probems for the computer that I use it on. It relies on a full registry backup and System Restore if there is ever a problem created by removing registry entries. I ultimately expect CSC to do its cleaning jobs and never create any unexpected problems for the computers that I use it on. I am sure that is the goal of the CSC development team. I feel certain that CSC will get to that point, but it isn't there yet.

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Re: Ccleaner vs Comodo System Cleaner
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2009, 09:53:27 AM »
CCleaner is great for just a quick clean of temp & cookies plus i can just right click recycle bin & clean from there. CSC is much more thorough & the registry cleaner is far better. Also 64 bit support which is always a plus.

 

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