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[3xist]

As Melih has mentioned, Developers won't be in unnecessary code just to pass a few irrelevant tests that have NO effect on real world threats! And most of you know CIS already gives fast, powerful and efficient code that is free and beneficial to the end user.

And No, They haven't tested latest CIS which will be #1. I am surprised actually.... They updated ZoneAlarm and a few others on 7th of Jan and not CIS.  Myself personally? I don't support Matousec anymore. Their methodology needs to change.

Cheers,
Josh

[Melih]

As Melih has mentioned, Developers won't be in unnecessary code just to pass a few irrelevant tests that have NO effect on real world threats! And most of you know CIS already gives fast, powerful and efficient code that is free and beneficial to the end user.

And No, They haven't tested latest CIS which will be #1. I am surprised actually.... They updated ZoneAlarm and a few others on 7th of Jan and not CIS.  Myself personally? I don't support Matousec anymore. Their methodology needs to change.

Cheers,
Josh

Not sure if it has anything to do with this or not but we have not paid Matousec to get them re-test our latest.

Melih

[3xist]

Not sure if it has anything to do with this or not but we have not paid Matousec to get them re-test our latest.

Melih

I don't know either to be honest.

Latest news

    * 2008-01-07: New results have been published for:
          o Jetico Personal Firewall 2.0.2.8.2327
          o Kaspersky Internet Security 2009 8.0.0.506
          o Online Armor Personal Firewall 3.0.0.190 Free
          o PC Tools Firewall Plus 5.0.0.36
          o ZoneAlarm Pro 8.0.059.000

I don't think it's likely all this companies would pay. Just my opinion...

Cheers,
Josh

[Monkey_Boy=)]

Not sure if it has anything to do with this or not but we have not paid Matousec to get them re-test our latest.

Melih

How much does this matousec guy charge for testing?
Anyone knows that?

Would be interesting to know.. 

[3xist]

How much does this matousec guy charge for testing?
Anyone knows that?

Would be interesting to know.. 

Me too. But Melih stopped paying a while ago for NEW tests and retests, etc... Good thing btw.

Cheers,
Josh

[gibran]

Me too. But Melih stopped paying a while ago for NEW tests and retests, etc... Good thing btw.

Cheers,
Josh

AFAIK Matousec always tested CFP for free because CFP is a widely acclaimed product nor Comodo needed to pay for a retest thus far.

 

[LeoniAquila]

AFAIK Matousec always tested CFP for free because CFP is a widely acclaimed product nor Comodo needed to pay for a retest thus far.

 

AFAIRemember Comodo has payed at least once, but I may be wrong. Melih knows of course.

Anyhow it's VERY expensive.

[Monkey_Boy=)]

There is always a way to bypass defense such as Defense+. And if you think a for a little bit, you'll understand what I mean.

Regards

If you found one (or more) way around D+, please post it.
And Iam sure if its a real threat it will get fixed some time soon since these things are high priority.


Of course nothing is 100% complete protection, but how do you mean that its always a way to bypass D+?
I think what they meant with bullet proof is that founded flaws has been fixed.

[Melih]

security is never 100% but comparitive...
so compared to all the protection out there CIS is the best protection imo....(thats why I personally use it and thats why I build it.. cos everything else was simply not acceptable to me)

Melih

[Monkey_Boy=)]

security is never 100% but comparitive...
so compared to all the protection out there CIS is the best protection imo....(thats why I personally use it and thats why I build it.. cos everything else was simply not acceptable to me)

Melih

I too feel very confident in CIS as for now.
Cheers.

[Monkey_Boy=)]

Maybe there are millions of threats out there, and yet, all are resumed to just one threat. And that, my dearest friend, is the major of all threats.

And yes, nothing is 100% effective. Not even 99% or 99,99%, as some claim they offer such protection. Not targeting Comodo. I'm talking in a general way.

Iam glad you sorted that out for us. 

But I feel pretty sure that a power user with proper knowledge can browse the net and do the most stuff online these day with a less than 0,001% risk of getting infected or hijacked the coming 4-5 years from now.

[Melih]

Maybe there are millions of threats out there, and yet, all are resumed to just one threat. And that, my dearest friend, is the major of all threats.

And yes, nothing is 100% effective. Not even 99% or 99,99%, as some claim they offer such protection. Not targeting Comodo. I'm talking in a general way.

In my presentations I used to say there is no 100% security.... but I said.. there is one place known to man that offers 100% security.....

A Black Hole ..

cos you can put stuff in it (like password etc ) and you can never get it back....
But even that is no longer the case as Blackholes do eminate radiation based on what goes in it...so even a black hole leaks information ....

So now, I know of no way that can provide 100% security!

Melih

[LeoniAquila]

So now, I know of no way that can provide 100% security!

Maybe that's a good thing, else you wouldn't have to develop anything new. At least that's how I look upon work in my career: I don't want to do the exact same thing over and over again, I want new challenges!

[weaker]

Transmission of information via entangled quantums is considered safe by the actual physics knowledge IIRC.

[salmonela]

I read that somewhere must be "white holes" where all that stuff from "black holes" burst out... for example I think ganda is fired out from one of those things 

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