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« on: April 27, 2008, 05:44:06 PM »

Is this another PC Tools AV, or is it just a product that helps scan/prevent malware?

Anyone use or has used it have any feedback? It looks interesting.
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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2008, 05:45:27 PM »

Threatfire has been around for awhile. Its a HIPS product like D+ in Comodo. If you have Comodo you do not need Threatfire.
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2008, 05:55:56 PM »

I use Comodo Firewall with HIPS, and BOclean.. So Threatfire wouldn't be worth having?
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2008, 06:08:06 PM »

No cause then you would have 2 HIPS. There are threads in here about this and conflicts that come about. I don't trust and thing from PC Tools anyways.
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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2008, 07:44:33 PM »

Threatfire has been around for awhile. Its a HIPS product like D+ in Comodo. If you have Comodo you do not need Threatfire.

Its not a HIPS, because a HIPS guards areas of your system and prompts the user or checks against a blacklist.  TF is a behavioral anylizer, that reports programs or files as malware solely based on behavior.

D+  is much more effective however.
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« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2008, 08:11:51 PM »

True info I was wrong. Threatfire is more of a behavior blocker but D+ is more powerful.
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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2008, 01:38:35 PM »

True info I was wrong. Threatfire is more of a behavior blocker but D+ is more powerful.

Yes true.  Id stick with d+ for power but TF for unattended protection.
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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2008, 09:00:35 PM »

Whats D+ ?

Thanks for the feedback btw, I wasn't planing on using it to begin with just wanted to know what it was about.
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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2008, 09:43:59 PM »

D+ is the HIPS protection system found in Comodo Firewall. Read about it here.

http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/benefits.html
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« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2008, 10:05:39 AM »

TF is more effective for 95% of people.
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« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2008, 10:29:18 AM »

TF is more effective for 95% of people.

And thats just why Comodo has been voted best firewal by Matousec,PC Mag and CNET. I would rather use Comodo all in one then have to run a firewall,behavior blocker and a virus scan. Why run 3 programs when you can run only 2.
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« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2008, 10:34:51 AM »

And thats just why Comodo has been voted best firewal by Matousec,PC Mag and CNET.

Well I was comparing defense+ versus TF, obviously not the firewall capabilities... The last i checked TF is not a firewall and hence cannot be voted "best firewall"....  so what is your point?

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I would rather use Comodo all in one then have to run a firewall,behavior blocker and a virus scan. Why run 3 programs when you can run only 2.

Comodo doesn't replace a virus scan.

I rather run a reasonable number of security layers, than put all your eggs in one basket.


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« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2008, 10:47:59 AM »

I use Avira Premium 8 and Comodo. Not all in one basket if you read the other reply's. I also use Sandboxie when needed. Muilple layers of protection doesn't not protect you better. It can actually hurt you when 2 programs are trying to do the same thing. This coming from an Avira CEO. 
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« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2008, 12:28:37 PM »

I use Avira Premium 8 and Comodo. Not all in one basket if you read the other reply's. I also use Sandboxie when needed. Muilple layers of protection doesn't not protect you better. It can actually hurt you when 2 programs are trying to do the same thing. This coming from an Avira CEO. 

So you are an Avira fanboy as well as comodo?

You say multiple layers can hurt. I fully agree. And yet you use multi-layers....

Which is better you think, use multi-layers but all of them from the same company, or use multi-layers from different companies?

Also I would like to explore the part about "trying to do the same thing", what exactly counts as "trying to do the same thing?"

People say this all the time, but i notice people have very different ideas about what this means...

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doing "different things" may also cause damage.....








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« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2008, 12:35:38 PM »

A firewall with HIPS and an Antivirus is NOT layered. That is my set up 90% of the time. Sandboxie is when I need it. SO I clearly miss your point about layers.
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