Avira-antiVir newbie

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[ganda]

errr yeah.
i heard Avira can catch 99% of malwares, so for the 1 %, we can simply pour milk or beer to our computer and get a new one . actually i'm addicted to coffee, not just coffee i'm a brand fanatic. i love my nescafe . beer is bitter btw.
i guess the discussion about Avira-Antivir is over. i'm no longer newbie now. it's a great product. can't believe what i've said about it before  .

another beer 

 

[Goose18]

Quick question for you Avira AV users. Is it a simple AV? If i was to install it on  my mothers computer. would it be a hassle for her? (she dosent know anything about computers or how they work)

[Ragwing]

Yes it's easy to use. It updates automatically. But set heuristc scanning to low/medium, else she'll get a lot of false positives
Also, you might need to do a full scan sometimes, if you can't learn her how to do it. Just double-click AntiVir in the traybar and choose 'Scan system now'
Lol, it's so funny that our parents are so ******, my dad hardly know how to turn on the computer

Cheers,
Ragwing

EDIT: No offence against your mum, but it's 2007 now, so everyone should know how a computer works

[ganda]

this product is designed for individual PCs,and does not support network drive scan.
now this is a minus point for Avira-antivir    i can't scan my server comp using Avira, luckily i still have Spyware terminator's clam AV to do the job.but still....

[ultragunner]

hi guys
 
i've just replaced my CAVS 2.0 with Avira Antivir (pretty old, i've got copy of the installer from my friend) and i guess i need some guidance.

i got "sched.exe" error when i was trying to update, (i've googled it & i found that it's related to avira scheduler),btw the updater kept go on, but in the middle of it (about 50% of update bar) the update window shut off & i got this warning:
"scheduler not loaded".  . i'm sure i didn't do anything related to scheduler.
the warning shows up everytime i try to update Avira until i reboot my computer.
after rebooting, i got the same "sched.exe" error, then the update seems fine until the "scheduler not loaded" warning show up again.   
maybe it's a curse for leaving CAVS , what's the connection between updating & the scheduler?why the update need it?

can somebody help me?

Ganda


edit : i guess my Avira is fine now, after 3 times trying to update  , my avira sig has been updated, and i don't know why,but it seems the sched.exe problem is fixed too.
 
so far so good, got many false positives though  .

so, any suggestion to improve/set up avira?


more edit : my 500th post

Avira is an excellent antivirus but its problem is with its false positives, you must always quarantine instead of deleting. Check the files that is deleting with other AV, it may be a good chance it is a false positive/

[ganda]

Avira is an excellent antivirus but its problem is with its false positives, you must always quarantine instead of deleting. Check the files that is deleting with other AV, it may be a good chance it is a false positive/

ok.thx

[ganda]

got this error when i was trying to send suspicious file via avira quarantine tab :
sending object failed,
received error message from smtp server
530 5.7.0 must issue STARTTLS command first k21sm12478252waf

anybody got a clue? i've sent the file via www.free-av.com btw.
i've set the email setting:
expert mode ==>general ==>email, i typed
smtp.gmail.com (smtp server),
ganda.wilianto [ at ] gmail.com (email address)
and so on. but the test email failed, anything wrong?

[MorphOS REBOL]

If your Avira tells you something is suspicious....
quarantine it.

Wait 5 days.

After having updated, browse the file again.

If Avira says it is ok, allow it again.

There's normally no real need for using the forum at all.

Really not. Believe me?

I WOULD, by the way, REALLY recommend to use the highest heuristics.....

If not sure, quarantine instead of deleting.

Avira FREE IS THE BEST. (2 years ago it may have been all about Kaspersky and NOD32)

You don't need the paid version if you have an AS shield.

But you could AND PROBABLY, if you can afford it, should update to the paid version.
Not for the sake of more security, but for good intention towards cancer children.

Should you? Depends on you and what you can afford. That's all I have to say about it.

[ganda]

got this error when i was trying to send suspicious file via avira quarantine tab :
sending object failed,
received error message from smtp server
530 5.7.0 must issue STARTTLS command first k21sm12478252waf

anybody got a clue? i've sent the file via www.free-av.com btw.
i've set the email setting:
expert mode ==>general ==>email, i typed
smtp.gmail.com (smtp server),
ganda.wilianto [ at ] gmail.com (email address)
and so on. but the test email failed, anything wrong?

errr, any suggestion for the email setting? i've managed to send the file to avira via email (and it's clean). but i think,sending the file via quarantine tab is easier.

and hoooraayyyy heuristic. maybe it sounds silly, but one of the reasons i use avira-antivir is the heuristic. FP is no problem for me.
hey,anybody can explain in a simple way : what's the difference between heuristic (avira) & behavioral scanning (like threat fire).   

[ultragunner]

Avira FREE IS THE BEST. (2 years ago it may have been all about Kaspersky and NOD32)

I agree Avira Free is the best of the free antivirus tried it for a week. Like it so much that I upgraded to premium version which has even better detection & disinfection rates than avira free also spyware & superb rootkit detection. They say Avira Premium can give Kaspersky & Nod32 shall we say
[]"A RUN FOR THEIR MONEY"according to the latest test results. But like I said no anti virus is perfect kaspersky & nod32 can detect threats that even Avira Premium missed.

[ultragunner]

errr yeah.
i heard Avira can catch 99% of malwares, so for the 1 %,
 

Actually that is all on paper my friend, remember every day a hundred to more than a thousand mallware is being created by people with malicious intent.  My point is even those test results are not totally complete due to the fact that it is impossible to have a complete library of mallware. remember
that.  Actually I own Avira Premium, I like it very much ( . So shall we say 99% percent is what the viruses they found but what about the new & unknown threats they didnt find!!!!! .  I wouldnt rely that much on test results if I were you.

[ganda]

Actually that is all on paper my friend, remember every day a hundred to more than a thousand mallware is being created by people with malicious intent.  My point is even those test results are not totally complete due to the fact that it is impossible to have a complete library of mallware.

ya, i still got ST's HIPS for those unknown malware.

I wouldnt rely that much on test results if I were you.

well, i know i can rely on my hammer . 
 

[andyman35]

errr, any suggestion for the email setting? i've managed to send the file to avira via email (and it's clean). but i think,sending the file via quarantine tab is easier.

and hoooraayyyy heuristic. maybe it sounds silly, but one of the reasons i use avira-antivir is the heuristic. FP is no problem for me.
hey,anybody can explain in a simple way : what's the difference between heuristic (avira) & behavioral scanning (like threat fire).   

In simplistic terms a heuristic scanner will look within a file structure for similarities with known malware,whereas a behavioural scanner usually executes a file within a sandbox to observe what it does,before allowing or denying it access to the 'real' system.

[ultragunner]

In simplistic terms a heuristic scanner will look within a file structure for similarities with known malware,whereas a behavioural scanner usually executes a file within a sandbox to observe what it does,before allowing or denying it access to the 'real' system.

Yes, it can even stop polymorphic viruses & common viruses,  But whether it can stop the next generation of mallware called Metamorphic Viruses, that remains to be seen....
Metamorphic Viruses  can reprogram itself. Often, it does this by translating its own code into a temporary representation, edit the temporary representation of itself, and then write itself back to normal code again. This procedure is done with the virus itself, and thus also the metamorphic engine itself undergoes changes. This is used by some viruses when they are about to infect new files, and the result is that the "children" will never look like their parents. The computer viruses that use this technique do this in order to avoid the pattern recognition of anti-virus software: the actual algorithm does not change, but everything else might.

Metamorphic code is more effective than polymorphic code. This is because most anti-virus software will try to search for known virus-code even during the execution of the code.

There may be a chance that even HIPS cannot stop metamorphic viruses.

[ganda]

In simplistic terms a heuristic scanner will look within a file structure for similarities with known malware,whereas a behavioural scanner usually executes a file within a sandbox to observe what it does,before allowing or denying it access to the 'real' system.

thx andyman35.

Yes, it can even stop polymorphic viruses & common viruses,  But whether it can stop the next generation of mallware called Metamorphic Viruses, that remains to be seen....
Metamorphic Viruses  can reprogram itself. Often, it does this by translating its own code into a temporary representation, edit the temporary representation of itself, and then write itself back to normal code again. This procedure is done with the virus itself, and thus also the metamorphic engine itself undergoes changes. This is used by some viruses when they are about to infect new files, and the result is that the "children" will never look like their parents. The computer viruses that use this technique do this in order to avoid the pattern recognition of anti-virus software: the actual algorithm does not change, but everything else might.

Metamorphic code is more effective than polymorphic code. This is because most anti-virus software will try to search for known virus-code even during the execution of the code.

There may be a chance that even HIPS cannot stop metamorphic viruses.

(:AGY)curse metamorphic viruses, i'll buy more hammer

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