AVG Free Edition 8.0.100 Released!

[Guest]

[MorphOS REBOL]

Oh well.

Listen to me, young people.

Wise ol' grandfath'r ain't a'tellin' ya ****.

1. AVG Antispyware (7.5), oh so beloved by many, formerly known as EWIDO ANTISPYWARE 4.5, has now been DISCONTINUED. That is why? Well... Because it was too good. Because it was developed by highly engaged Bavarian (German) programmers with eye rings every night. That was THEN, THIS is now. One year ago, AVG bought up the poor, rather rural development department of EWIDO, and made AVG ANTISPYWARE out of EWIDO ANTISPYWARE. The had bought it, because it was great. Sad to say so, but it became worse with every day under czech AVG's rulership.
Your decision to buy AVG Antivirus or the whole Suite (Version: is, of course, on your side, but don't expect too much. They've killed another great independent security company, remember what happened to Sygate by Norton / Symantec?
I beg of you: don't support a company that is following such strategies!

STOP NORTON. STOP SYMANTEC. STOP (now as well) AVG.

Cheers
The REBOL

[Info-Sec]

Oh well.

Listen to me, young people.

Wise ol' grandfath'r ain't a'tellin' ya ****.

1. AVG Antispyware (7.5), oh so beloved by many, formerly known as EWIDO ANTISPYWARE 4.5, has now been DISCONTINUED. That is why? Well... Because it was too good. Because it was developed by highly engaged Bavarian (German) programmers with eye rings every night. That was THEN, THIS is now. One year ago, AVG bought up the poor, rather rural development department of EWIDO, and made AVG ANTISPYWARE out of EWIDO ANTISPYWARE. The had bought it, because it was great. Sad to say so, but it became worse with every day under czech AVG's rulership.
Your decision to buy AVG Antivirus or the whole Suite (Version: is, of course, on your side, but don't expect too much. They've killed another great independent security company, remember what happened to Sygate by Norton / Symantec?
I beg of you: don't support a company that is following such strategies!

STOP NORTON. STOP SYMANTEC. STOP (now as well) AVG.

Cheers
The REBOL

I have to disagree.  I think Ewido antimalware was a poor solution.  It only detected cookies, and reported the same cookie 500 times.

[Luketan]

I have to disagree.  I think Ewido antimalware was a poor solution.  It only detected cookies, and reported the same cookie 500 times.

Well it found only cookies because your system was clean? Or do you prefer it finds false positives on your system?

[Info-Sec]

Well it found only cookies because your system was clean? Or do you prefer it finds false positives on your system?

Of course its impossible for a system to be clean.  I expect it to pickup something other then tracking cookies, the entire time I used it.

[Luketan]

Of course its impossible for a system to be clean.  I expect it to pickup something other then tracking cookies, the entire time I used it.

It's impossible for a system to be clean??? You mean you routinely get infected ? Hmm are you a noob?. Most people i know get infected once a decade or never at all...

[aXes]

I have installed AVG 8.0 Free to a computer (Windows XP). I impressed from it.

GUI is very beatiful (may not be important for an AV), installation is fast, scanning is fast. It seems faster and better than 7.5.

aXes

[Info-Sec]

It's impossible for a system to be clean??? You mean you routinely get infected ? Hmm are you a noob?. Most people i know get infected once a decade or never at all...

Obviously your the noob.  Because it is mathematically impossible to detect every virus in existance.  And it is quite possible that there is one virus on every computer in the world that can't be detected.

[Info-Sec]

LOL, yes there are malware that cannot be detected by known scanners. But that does not mean it is on your computer....

So you are always working on the assumption that if security software does not find anything on your computer it sucks? So if CAVS or comodo boclean fails to find anything on your computer they sucks too?

No.  When we use the term clean (or at least when I do) a reputable scanner which has been proven hasn't detected anything malicious and there is not apparent signs of infection.  I know for a fact there has to be at least one thing every antivirus on the market cannot detect, and thats just life.

[fazio93]

is it true that AVG 8 has no web scanner and the email scanner expires after 30 day?

[Luketan]

Obviously your the noob.  Because it is mathematically impossible to detect every virus in existance. 

Halting theorem? Is someone reading too much kurt Wismer?. lol.

And it is quite possible that there is one virus on every computer in the world that can't be detected.

Quite possible. Also it is quite possible that God created the world yesterday.

InfoSec, your logic seriously needs work.

[Luketan]

No.  When we use the term clean (or at least when I do) a reputable scanner which has been proven hasn't detected anything malicious and there is not apparent signs of infection.  I know for a fact there has to be at least one thing every antivirus on the market cannot detect, and thats just life.

Dear infosec, it is very interesting watching you argue. You state obvious facts, but without seeing that you are not making your case.

Here you exhibit circular logic.

Your stand is scanner X sucks because it doesnt' detect anything on your machine.  And unless you already *know* for fact by infecting yourself with something....... the fact that any scanner does not find anything does not tell you anything.

Oh sure, for all you know you are infected by a super stealthy rootkit unknown to everyone in the world... lol...
But if you hold this line of reasoning, all scanners fail...

[Info-Sec]

Dear infosec, it is very interesting watching you argue. You state obvious facts, but without seeing that you are not making your case.

Here you exhibit circular logic.

Your stand is scanner X sucks because it doesnt' detect anything on your machine.  And unless you already *know* for fact by infecting yourself with something....... the fact that any scanner does not find anything does not tell you anything.

Oh sure, for all you know you are infected by a super stealthy rootkit unknown to everyone in the world... lol...
But if you hold this line of reasoning, all scanners fail...

Obviously its your understanding that needs work.  Every one knows that it is impossible for any one, even a whole army of scanners can't detect one virus.  That is life, and you must accept that.  Clearly you do not know how I hold my scanners, because I do not base my results on all scanners trying to find what may be impossible to find in some time.  Luke you are putting words in my mouth, and you are wrong.  It is a fact of life, and mathematically proven it is impossible to detect EVERYTHING on your PC, there will always be an underlaying virus, rootkit, spyware on every machine no matter how careful you are.

[fazio93]

Obviously its your understanding that needs work.  Every one knows that it is impossible for any one, even a whole army of scanners can't detect one virus.  That is life, and you must accept that.  Clearly you do not know how I hold my scanners, because I do not base my results on all scanners trying to find what may be impossible to find in some time.  Luke you are putting words in my mouth, and you are wrong.  It is a fact of life, and mathematically proven it is impossible to detect EVERYTHING on your PC, there will always be an underlaying virus, rootkit, spyware on every machine no matter how careful you are.

not if its not connected to the interent 

[Luketan]

not if its not connected to the interent 

Well maybe your hardware already comes with malware? or maybe windows is a rootkit? or maybe someone broke into your house physically and installed malware. Or maybe God himself cursed you with malware...

LOL...

PS I'm just kidding here, no offense intended to you Fazio.

[Luketan]

Obviously its your understanding that needs work.  Every one knows that it is impossible for any one, even a whole army of scanners can't detect one virus. 

i'm pretty sure it's not impossible for one scanner to detect at least one virus. lol...

It is a fact of life, and mathematically proven

I don't disagree, but can you prove it to me? Using formal mathematics i mean. Why can't an algorithm in theory detect every malware?

it is impossible to detect EVERYTHING on your PC, there will always be an underlaying virus, rootkit, spyware on every machine no matter how careful you are.

So what virus, rootkit or spyware is on your computer now?

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