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Quote from: panic on September 16, 2009, 05:26:01 AM
Guns don't kill - people do.
A keygen may not contain malware, but that doesn't mean it won't be used to contravene a contract or license.
A simple TXT file could be used for that too
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Regardless of any ethical concerns - ask yourself "Could my point have been made equally as well with any legitimate file?"
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Quote from: panic on September 16, 2009, 05:26:01 AM
Guns don't kill - people do.
A keygen may not contain malware, but that doesn't mean it won't be used to contravene a contract or license.
That means the police must confiscate all the money from the people to prevent any kind of corruption.To confiscate every kitchen knife, to prevent homicides.Prohibit talking to prevent telling lies?I don't think you are right.That's just my opinion.No offense.
Quote from: panic on September 16, 2009, 05:30:45 AM
Regardless of any ethical concerns - ask yourself "Could my point have been made equally as well with any legitimate file?"
I really don't know the answer.
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Keygens and cracks are often loaded with an unwanted payload.
I believe Comodos stance is that they will flag them. If you want to use them, it's up to you to put them on your safe files or exclusion list. (Assuming they aren't on a removable drive
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Quote from: HeffeD on September 16, 2009, 05:34:11 AM
Keygens and cracks are
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loaded with an unwanted payload.
I believe Comodos stance is that they will flag them. If you want to use them, it's up to you to put them on your safe files or exclusion list. (Assuming they aren't on a removable drive
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Often doesn't mean always, right?The good AV must detects just the real ones, not all of the files with the same name.
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September 16, 2009, 05:39:17 AM »
No, they don't always.
And no, a good AV should look at questionable characteristics...
Think about it. How is an AV solution supposed to be able to tell the difference between good and bad keygens? You are merely using the keygen to run software you don't own. The keygen could be just as easily been implemented in a piece of malware to steal your passwords or serial numbers...
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[at] cocktail and bequick,
You both have points, but I have to come back to "Could my point have been made equally as well with any legitimate file?".
LEGITIMATE.EXE would have produced the same fail.
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The big companies in the game industry know very well about all the keygens in the world.But that's their politic.It seems that they do nothing, but the reality is other.They leaving all that kind of stuff to promote their products.You can play just single player with this keygen.For multy, you got to pay for license.With the keygen, you can try the game, and if you like it, you can buy it.The companies doing that on purpose.The big release groups like RELOADED work for the game industry and make keygens, because of them.That's the real truth.
[at]panic, you're right too.
OK, i was not completely right to post this file here.Sorry, i will never do it again.
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Seriously?? Wow... Just wow...
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Quote from: HeffeD on September 16, 2009, 05:44:55 AM
Seriously?? Wow... Just wow...
You don't believe it?Really? Wow from me too.
I know it, it is not a supposition.
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Seriously man...
Promoting their product with keygens? That has to be the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
If they wanted you to have their game for free they'd just give it to you. There is no better promotion than simply giving someone something for free. They wouldn't mess around with keygens...
And I do know what I'm talking about because I happen to be in another business that has to deal with this type of thing.
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Quote from: Kyle on September 16, 2009, 05:52:19 AM
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Last and i will stop writing.
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bequick, I don't believe a single instance (which this was) constitutes an industry wide trend or policy. In any event, Ubisoft's motives were not as you described above, they weren't giving anything away.. aside from the pirate's no-CD crack that is.
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