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« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2007, 12:44:12 PM »

how would you like us to improve our indicator everytime you go to a legitimate site?
As I see it, the problem with "toning down" VE's border to make it less intrusive (which you can do anyway; just decrease the thickness, change the color, etc) is that it becomes less noticeable.  Thus, the user is less likely to pay attention to it, which defeats the purpose.

There are some websites that have (from Verisign, I think) a sizable balloon window that shows from the corner, with verification information.  I actually kind of like that in preference to VE's border notification.  It's kind of like Comodo's TrustLogo balloon, but apparently doesn't require a mouse-over; if it's active on the site, it shows.

Hard to ignore, but perhaps less "intrusive."

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« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2007, 01:24:39 PM »

I think an indicator that turns green or red (or blue for unknown) that is situated at the bottom right of the browser window would be better. It could say Comodo Verification Engine or similar. I love what VE does and admit it is superior to site advisor. However I think the large green border is too intrusive and detracts unnecessarily from the surfing experience.


Little Mac I think the look of the McAfee add-on is less intrusive without becoming easy to ignore. Most users would soon become aware of a smaller green or red box at the bottom of the browser and would learn to look at it when they browse to a new site.

Very rough screenshot attached: I think it would be better with the box colour changing but havent got time to colour it just now. 

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« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2007, 01:48:10 PM »

I think that personally I wouldn't be very attentive to that; too subtle.  Haven't used McAfee Site Adviser, so I don't know what it looks like in action, though.

Here's the popup I was talking about.  It's just there for a few seconds.  Granted this is only on https, but it's the popup I'm referring to, not the process...

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« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2007, 02:19:28 PM »

I quite like that too LM, certainly an improvement on the huge green border.

Maybe a combination of the two: a popup that lasts a short time, similar to your screenshot, and also a small coloured VE 'button' near the bottom of the screen that stays 'lit' whilst the user is on a website. Perhasp clicking on the VE engine 'button' could re-open the pop up for more info if users want to double check?

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« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2007, 02:30:29 PM »

Here's the popup I was talking about.  It's just there for a few seconds.  Granted this is only on https, but it's the popup I'm referring to, not the process...

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What program is the popup used in? I tried VE but it didn't work with Opera (my default browser). Sad
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« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2007, 02:36:20 PM »


I do have McAfee Site Advisor installed and in three colors. Like on a stoplight, red, yellow or green. Same with product, safe to go, yellow is caution (visited 2 sites with that for genealogy, Lycos.com, Tripod.com and got 3+3+3 tracking cookies).  I once used this site: www.driversguide.com, tried that and it turned red! quick look at found out why, two pages of ads BEFORE you even see the site?? Got out pronto.

Originally uninstalled Comodo BOClean, CBF and IE7. So I could find out why errors on page??
Turns out that there was more to this that a simple solution would not work.
Reinstalled both Comodo products-then IE7.
Shut down it all for 3 hours after changes below. No problems now, all are playing nice now.
Went to Internet Options and put many sites into Security, Trusted and unchecked https:; tried the same with Local Intranet. Comodo was a no-go but my ISP did.  
Everything works now with one small exception, have to give permission to access Local intranet.
Compared to what happened. Looks good to me. Darrell
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« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2007, 07:50:26 PM »

What program is the popup used in? I tried VE but it didn't work with Opera (my default browser). Sad
I think it's actually part of Firefox 2.  An automatic deal.  It will show by mousing over the padlock icon at the bottom of the browser, when on an encrypted site (https).  I've seen it show for Verisign, Thawte, etc...

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« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2007, 09:55:49 AM »

I think it's actually part of Firefox 2.  An automatic deal.  It will show by mousing over the padlock icon at the bottom of the browser, when on an encrypted site (https).  I've seen it show for Verisign, Thawte, etc...

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« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2007, 08:30:32 PM »

i know comodo has ve and i use it but is comodo going to develop an anti phising tool like mcafee site advisor,trend protect(trend micro)i think it would be a great tool from u guys?
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« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2007, 03:28:50 PM »

i know comodo has ve and i use it but is comodo going to develop an anti phising tool like mcafee site advisor,trend protect(trend micro)i think it would be a great tool from u guys?

Well, the whole point about phishing and why it can cause damage is because the user cannot identify the site as legit...

So if there is a tool that allows you to identify/verify a site as legit, then you shouldn't be phished!

thats what VE does!!

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« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2007, 02:26:33 AM »

I think VE is a great tool, however I still think the big green border is a little too intrusive.

Whilst McAfeee Site Advisor does not validate a site the same as VE does I think the interface and the way it warns is much more acceptable. I feel many more people might use VE if they did not have to put up with the huge green border.

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« Reply #26 on: May 18, 2007, 12:55:04 PM »

I think VE is a great tool, however I still think the big green border is a little too intrusive.

I feel many more people might use VE if they did not have to put up with the huge green border.
You know, you don't have to "put up" with it; you can change it...

Open the options.  You can change the border width (to decrease or increase).  You can change the color as well.  I have it set to 5 for the width and a dark blue that matches my color scheme.  I still notice it, but it's not as intrusive.

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« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2007, 02:11:00 AM »

I haver tried various changes but find it still irritates me for some reason - maybe it's just me, perhaps my medication needs increasing!

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« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2007, 04:07:52 AM »

Or halving.  Wink
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« Reply #29 on: September 08, 2007, 06:19:11 PM »

Interesting new APP:

http://www.idnwebshield.com/?menu=menuIdnWebShield&lang=en-iso-8859-15

I somehow like the thought of not having to connect to certain servers whilst browsing the www

Relies on downloaded lists....  fine prog...

I think that would be the next step for COMODO as well?

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